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aikighost · Post by **aikighost** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:55 am

So is this likely to happen? Because that would be friking amazing IMHO.

proto39 · Post by **proto39** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:09 pm

[quote="aikighost"]So is this likely to happen? Because that would be friking amazing IMHO.[/quote]

I wouldn't bet on it. I don't think Reason is going to support VSTs any time soon.

You'd probably have better luck with Orion Studio. I personally never used those types of programs, but I think it's the only 'all-in-one' production software that supports VSTs.

arbee · Post by **arbee** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:13 pm

I saw the cdm live coverage yesterday as well.

I also saw urs' name in the list of plugin developpers who will participate in that new reason plugin format.

I don't use reason so I'm not really excited about all of this but it's great for reason users. I hope urs will not take too much of his time to work on the reason stuff

just kidding !

mharnishfeger · Post by **mharnishfeger** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:02 pm

I'm also interested in this, because Zebra2 is my go-to synth, so one of the only reasons I haven't made the switch to using Reason as my all-in-one DAW is that I wouldn't be able to use any of my Uhbiks or Zebra in the program without rewire. If u-he makes Zebra into a rack extension (or any other u-he synth for that matter), I would be a very happy man.

critza · Post by **critza** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:25 pm

mharnishfeger wrote:I'm also interested in this, because Zebra2 is my go-to synth, so one of the only reasons I haven't made the switch to using Reason as my all-in-one DAW is that I wouldn't be able to use any of my Uhbiks or Zebra in the program without rewire. If u-he makes Zebra into a rack extension (or any other u-he synth for that matter), I would be a very happy man.

Good

aikighost · Post by **aikighost** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:35 pm

proto39 wrote:I wouldn't bet on it. I don't think Reason is going to support VSTs any time soon.

You didn't see the reason allowing 3rd party plugins via their own integrated app store announcement yesterday then? They are doing an apple style app store where properly re-skinned versions of people vsts can be sold.

Apparently propellerheads have spent a lot of time on the the SDK and dev tools to make it easy as pie to convert your current DSP code to run in the reason rack.

uHe, GForce, soniccharge & Korg amongst others were announced as already developing stuff for the reason rack.

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:52 pm

Urs said the ReRack technology isn't there yet to port his big synths:

Urs wrote:We couldn't do Zebra, ACE or even Diva just yet. But we've got a close wire to Props to work out ways to port a few things.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 68#4863768

mharnishfeger · Post by **mharnishfeger** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:39 pm

bmrzycki wrote:Urs said the ReRack technology isn't there yet to port his big synths:

Urs wrote:We couldn't do Zebra, ACE or even Diva just yet. But we've got a close wire to Props to work out ways to port a few things.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 68#4863768

So I guess my question to the u-he team would be, "since Reason 6.5 is scheduled to come out sometime within this second quarter, realistically, how soon after the release of Reason 6.5 would a u-he synth be able to be implemented as a rack extension? Is it even a possibility in Q2?"

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:28 pm

I'm still kind of not allowed to talk technical details, so bear with me if I'm being vague.

While doing Uhbiks is a no brainer and astonishingly easy to do, we couldn't quite comprehend how to do the dynamic user interface of Zebra, Diva and ACE in these early stages of the platform.

OTOH I talked to many Props today and everyone stressed how much they'd like us to also port the synths. So I do believe that it's just a matter of time till we can at least do ACE or even Diva, and maybe one day also Zebra. We will need to establish a workflow, and we'll need to get Propellerhead to help us with some stuff.

After all this is a mind boggling concept from a developer's point of view, and once the SDK goes public... all I can say is, we've been drooling over this for quite a while

simesf · Post by **simesf** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:33 pm

Urs wrote: all I can say is, we've been drooling over this for quite a while

Want a tissue?

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:38 pm

It has to be Diva first....everyone loves Diva!

Liero · Post by **Liero** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:42 pm

Diva Diva Diva! Whatever you do, remember to include _shïtloads_ of CV/Gate inputs and outputs. If RE takes off Reason is going to be the number one modular synth playground out there just because you aren't shackled to synth's builtin effects and stuff anymore. Modulating any DIVA parameter with a Matrix pattern generator... mmmmmmmh....

thebaggytrouseredone · Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:44 pm

I think the modular patch environment in ACE would work well in Reason. More cables to patch and more modulation sources.

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:12 pm

Now DIVA, zebra(3?), Ace, Bazille...be interesting in reason with the routing options

Mind you rewire works very to be honest.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:18 am

Liero wrote:Diva Diva Diva! Whatever you do, remember to include _shïtloads_ of CV/Gate inputs and outputs. If RE takes off Reason is going to be the number one modular synth playground out there just because you aren't shackled to synth's builtin effects and stuff anymore. Modulating any DIVA parameter with a Matrix pattern generator... mmmmmmmh....

I'm not shackled to built in effects now! Lives racks and macros are easy to create and save with multiple 3rd party effect chains... With Max for Live I can modulate any Diva parameter should I wish.

I also have Numerology... but really I mostly use realtime modulation via a few knobs, expression pedal and X/Y pad and have little need for complex routings and setups beyond what racks provide.

u-he

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