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hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:48 pm

This is both win 7, vista, x64, x86 and two different computer and two different hosts (maschine 1.72 and reaper 4.25)

Valhallaroom, Ubermod, and Recabinet 3.1 will not allow the preset pop-up to work. For example, when you load valhallaroom in the mux, it's set to "default" but if you click on that you are supposed to get a pop-up for the presets it just pops up really fast and goes away really fast.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:35 pm

Some time ago someone reported this too for Valhalla Room. I researched it then and concluded it was on the plugin's side. But now Recabinet is from another developer so that's strange. Will research again.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:27 pm

Contacted Valhalla, waiting for their reply now...

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:31 pm

Cool.

mrchristian · Post by **mrchristian** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:14 am

i can confirm i was getting the same issue with the demo last night using plzmidichords and some other vsts i cant remember off the top of my head right now in cubase 5.

fugazi81 · Post by **fugazi81** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:21 pm

+1 PizMidiChords, PizMidiLooper

Can't open menus ->

it just pops up really fast and goes away really fast

-Mux 1-0-38 32&64
-Live 8 (Latest build)
-Maschine (Latest build)

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:42 pm

Strange i just plugged in Piz MidiChords 1.0.11 into MUX Vst 1.0.38 in Reaper and can't see anything wrong.

Which menu is not showing up?

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:06 pm

To all: If this problem is repeatable on your system then can you please also contact the plugin developer about this as i can't see inside the plugin. I'm open to help narrowing down this issue, plugin developers can contact me about this. But i think they should start looking up why a menu doesn't open or immediately closes. Maybe there is a reason in a common used UI framework like VstGui? Again, i'm open to investigate this together.

fugazi81 · Post by **fugazi81** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:36 pm

The Menu problem is/was on all dropdown menus.

I tested it in Reaper again and i have no problems with menus.

Sorry for the false alarm on Reaper (wrong monitor,to many windows opened)

But the problem appeared in Live and Maschine, when i open PizMidi Chords or Looper in MUX, it is not possible to open a (dropdown)menu, it opens but it doesn't stay open.

asseca · Post by **asseca** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:52 pm

I have the same problem with Pianoteq v4. (Pianoteq v3 seems to work OK)

So I think it is some problem between a newer version of Juce and MUX.

[edit]Cantabile Light 2.0 is giving these pop-up menu problems[/edit]

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:59 pm

I also suspect some issue in a commonly used UI framework. Yes it might be Juce, judging on the striped background of the menus. Please do email the relevant plugin developers, they need to set a breakpoint in their code and lookup the very reason. I'm open to help to narrow this down and fixed, wherever the bug is located.

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:16 pm

mutools wrote:I also suspect some issue in a commonly used UI framework. Yes it might be Juce, judging on the striped background of the menus. Please do email the relevant plugin developers, they need to set a breakpoint in their code and lookup the very reason. I'm open to help to narrow this down and fixed, wherever the bug is located.

I use Juce for my plugin code. The classes in question would be the PopUp Menu, if that is helpful. Is this with 32-bit or 64-bit VST? OSX, or Windows?

Sean Costello

asseca · Post by **asseca** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:18 pm

valhallasound wrote:
mutools wrote:I also suspect some issue in a commonly used UI framework. Yes it might be Juce, judging on the striped background of the menus. Please do email the relevant plugin developers, they need to set a breakpoint in their code and lookup the very reason. I'm open to help to narrow this down and fixed, wherever the bug is located.
I use Juce for my plugin code. The classes in question would be the PopUp Menu, if that is helpful. Is this with 32-bit or 64-bit VST? OSX, or Windows?

I have tested with both Win7-32bit and Win7-64-bit.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:41 pm

valhallasound wrote:I use Juce for my plugin code. The classes in question would be the PopUp Menu, if that is helpful.

Hi Sean, happy to hear from you. So what's the very reason why the Juce Popup Menu is automatically closing when eg Valhalla Room is plugged in into MUX Vst?

valhallasound · Post by **valhallasound** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:29 pm

mutools wrote:
valhallasound wrote:I use Juce for my plugin code. The classes in question would be the PopUp Menu, if that is helpful.
Hi Sean, happy to hear from you. So what's the very reason why the Juce Popup Menu is automatically closing when eg Valhalla Room is plugged in into MUX Vst?

No idea, as it works in most other Windows VST hosts (I haven't tried every VST host, but I haven't heard this complaint from any other Windows users). You can take a look at the Juce source code, and see how this would interact with your code.

Sean Costello

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