Zebra2/HZ questions
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 12 Jun, 2012 from Augsburg/Germany
Hi!
ZebraHZ: In the ZebraHZ factory folder there's an alias of the Zebra2 factory patches folder which shows up in the patches browser. I did the same thing in the user folder (made an alias of my Zebra2 patches folder and moved it to the ZebraHZ folder) but the aliased folder doesn't show up in the patches browser. Is there a reason for this?
Zebra2: Is there a way to invert the standard envelopes? I looked at the Modulation Mixers but one cannot set Const to a negative value. Am i missing something?
Thanks,
Hans
ZebraHZ: In the ZebraHZ factory folder there's an alias of the Zebra2 factory patches folder which shows up in the patches browser. I did the same thing in the user folder (made an alias of my Zebra2 patches folder and moved it to the ZebraHZ folder) but the aliased folder doesn't show up in the patches browser. Is there a reason for this?
Zebra2: Is there a way to invert the standard envelopes? I looked at the Modulation Mixers but one cannot set Const to a negative value. Am i missing something?
Thanks,
Hans
- KVRAF
- 4141 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
There's no way to directly invert the envelopes. You can invert an envelope with the help of a modmapper:

In the example above Env1 is sent as a modulator source to Modmapper 1 and that is negatively modulating the Cutoff of VCF1.
Most of the direct modulation knobs are bipolar allowing you to use an envelope in a negative modulation direction too.
There's no way that I know of to invert the envelope when used as the amp env though. You can get around this by modulating the volume of a lane in a negative direction though...

In the example above Env1 is sent as a modulator source to Modmapper 1 and that is negatively modulating the Cutoff of VCF1.
Most of the direct modulation knobs are bipolar allowing you to use an envelope in a negative modulation direction too.
There's no way that I know of to invert the envelope when used as the amp env though. You can get around this by modulating the volume of a lane in a negative direction though...
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 22 posts since 12 Jun, 2012 from Augsburg/Germany
Thanks for your reply. As i test your suggestion i see that the envelope actually controls the speed and also the direction in which values are output from the mapper. (You can see this if you set the number of modmapper values to 128). In your example, with just two equal modmapper values, it makes no difference if the envelope is set as the modulator of the modmapper or not, the output is -100 in each case.bmrzycki wrote:There's no way to directly invert the envelopes. You can invert an envelope with the help of a modmapper:
In the example above Env1 is sent as a modulator source to Modmapper 1 and that is negatively modulating the Cutoff of VCF1.
Anyway - thanks again for your reply.
- u-he
- 30236 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
The first ModMapper entry needs to be set to zero. Then the envelope runs smoothly from 0 to -1
There are no inverted envelopes because they weren't ever necessary - all modulation targets have bipolar depth controls, so any modulation can be inverted. This however doesn't work with the Modulation Mixer, which indeed could do with an inverted input. That way one can mix normal and inverted modulations. Hmmm...
There are no inverted envelopes because they weren't ever necessary - all modulation targets have bipolar depth controls, so any modulation can be inverted. This however doesn't work with the Modulation Mixer, which indeed could do with an inverted input. That way one can mix normal and inverted modulations. Hmmm...
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 22 posts since 12 Jun, 2012 from Augsburg/Germany
It runs smoothly from 0 to -1 but doesn't result in an inverted envelope.Urs wrote:The first ModMapper entry needs to be set to zero. Then the envelope runs smoothly from 0 to -1
You are right, of course. It seems that i prefer to think "inverted envelope" before thinking "negative modulation"; shouldn't actually be a problemUrs wrote:There are no inverted envelopes because they weren't ever necessary - all modulation targets have bipolar depth controls, so any modulation can be inverted. This however doesn't work with the Modulation Mixer, which indeed could do with an inverted input. That way one can mix normal and inverted modulations. Hmmm...
Urs, i did ask a further question in my post:
In the ZebraHZ factory folder there's an alias of the Zebra2 factory patches folder which shows up in the patches browser. I did the same thing in the user folder (made an alias of my Zebra2 patches folder and moved it to my ZebraHZ folder) but the aliased folder doesn't show up in the patches browser. Is there a reason for this?
Thanks,
Hans
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 22 posts since 12 Jun, 2012 from Augsburg/Germany
Finally i found out how it works:hansiwalker wrote:ZebraHZ: In the ZebraHZ factory folder there's an alias of the Zebra2 factory patches folder which shows up in the patches browser. I did the same thing in the user folder (made an alias of my Zebra2 patches folder and moved it to the ZebraHZ folder) but the aliased folder doesn't show up in the patches browser. Is there a reason for this?
On OS X one must create the alias folder with the Unix command "ln -s" (instead of using the "alias" command from the Finder context menu).
Cheers,
Hans
