Hello Urs
What's the situation with the two remaining uhbiks?
And most important, will we in a near future (or at least 2013) see any U-he synth in the rack? That would really be something, think of the endless possibilities to connect everything to anything!
The reason platform really NEEDS a synth of U-he caliber
Reason Rack Extensions
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- u-he
- 30240 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
I can't promise a synth just yet. Our stuff is really a tad too demanding I think, or it needs too complex user interfaces 
The two remaining Uhbiks are in final beta testing. We could not release them any earlier because of an issue with the PH server (Runciter didn't pass their test for unknown reasons) and CPU-usage in the GUI (Uhbik-T has 176 buttons which used to take up a lot of CPU for reasons beyond us - Props have fixed that since).
We'll have a double release soon, and we'll finally offer bundles. Current plans are 3 bundles of 3 Uhbiks each, for 79$ and one bundle with all 9 Uhbiks for 199$. This way it's still cheaper to get things at the intro price.
What do you (and everyone else) think?
- Urs
The two remaining Uhbiks are in final beta testing. We could not release them any earlier because of an issue with the PH server (Runciter didn't pass their test for unknown reasons) and CPU-usage in the GUI (Uhbik-T has 176 buttons which used to take up a lot of CPU for reasons beyond us - Props have fixed that since).
We'll have a double release soon, and we'll finally offer bundles. Current plans are 3 bundles of 3 Uhbiks each, for 79$ and one bundle with all 9 Uhbiks for 199$. This way it's still cheaper to get things at the intro price.
What do you (and everyone else) think?
- Urs
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- u-he
- 30240 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
I forgot: We tentatively announced a tape emulation based on Satin for RE... not sure when, what, how and how much
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- KVRian
- 914 posts since 2 May, 2005
hi urs, a bundle price would be great and would tempt me to buy an additional version of uhbik (i already own the vst version). however, i think it would be great if you offer the complete bundle for the price of the vst bundle (149$). i know that this is still the introductory price but nonetheless...
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 24 Jun, 2012
The possibility of NO U-he synth in Reason indeed saddens me!
At the time of the release of the rack extension platform I was working in both Reaper and Reason (only using reaper for the U-he plugins I coulden't use in Reason).
When I found that U-he fully supported the RE platform I decided to ditch Reaper and only work in Reason, as I'm really not a fan of using multiple programs at the same time. So It's a huge step backwards for me if I'm to install Reaper again and the whole rewire thing is just an annoying and unnecessary thing...
Of course I don't blame you Urs or anyone at U-he, as I know that you are under certain limitations by propellerhead Software. So in fact, maybe I should write them a letter instead?
A Uhbiks bundle solution though, is definitely a great thing. Not that I personally care, because I've already purchased the ones released up until now.
As for the tape emulation thing for RE, well I don't know what to say. RE shop is filled with effects and utility plugins but only a handfull synths and, in my opinion, not one with a truly outstanding filter, like say, DIVA
well, nothing to do than wait and hope for the best to come
At the time of the release of the rack extension platform I was working in both Reaper and Reason (only using reaper for the U-he plugins I coulden't use in Reason).
When I found that U-he fully supported the RE platform I decided to ditch Reaper and only work in Reason, as I'm really not a fan of using multiple programs at the same time. So It's a huge step backwards for me if I'm to install Reaper again and the whole rewire thing is just an annoying and unnecessary thing...
Of course I don't blame you Urs or anyone at U-he, as I know that you are under certain limitations by propellerhead Software. So in fact, maybe I should write them a letter instead?
A Uhbiks bundle solution though, is definitely a great thing. Not that I personally care, because I've already purchased the ones released up until now.
As for the tape emulation thing for RE, well I don't know what to say. RE shop is filled with effects and utility plugins but only a handfull synths and, in my opinion, not one with a truly outstanding filter, like say, DIVA
well, nothing to do than wait and hope for the best to come
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- KVRAF
- 24452 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
I see nothing wrong in rewiring Reason and Reaper. Actually I am demoing Reason right now. I find its MIDI editing really clunky and quite slower than Reaper. Reaper's customizability runs circles around it...
TBH I'm looking at Reason as a synth expansion module with intricate wiring possibilities, but not really as a DAW, although it can record. I am much, MUCH faster working in Reaper, both audio and MIDI.
TBH I'm looking at Reason as a synth expansion module with intricate wiring possibilities, but not really as a DAW, although it can record. I am much, MUCH faster working in Reaper, both audio and MIDI.
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- KVRist
- 82 posts since 14 May, 2004 from ---
a RE like Satin were great, because Reason doesnt have something like that until now. The Sream4 is nice, but not a real emulation...
I would like to see a synth like Diva in Reason too
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Hope its not too difficult to make a RE from this ...
I would like to see a synth like Diva in Reason too
. Hope its not too difficult to make a RE from this ...
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- KVRAF
- 5575 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
what a surprise for the Reason users, including me, when they will throw a couple of instances of Diva in a Combinator (thinking its a Thor or any other device) and watch Reason crumbleThomasLehmann wrote:a RE like Satin were great, because Reason doesnt have something like that until now. The Sream4 is nice, but not a real emulation...
I would like to see a synth like Diva in Reason too
Hope its not too difficult to make a RE from this ...
Or after hearing Diva, thinking there is something wrong with the rest oh the synths
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- KVRAF
- 24452 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
I think RE couldn't support more than 2 Diva notes of polyphony on Divine. No matter which computer you have, it would melt down. IIRC Urs mentioned that RE API doesn't support multicore and low-level SSE optimization? Urs, please correct me on this one if you're around.
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- u-he
- 30240 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
That's correct. We can't schedule parts of the dsp in threads, nor can we do low level optimisation.EvilDragon wrote:IIRC Urs mentioned that RE API doesn't support multicore and low-level SSE optimization? Urs, please correct me on this one if you're around.
Unfortunately all our DSP algorithms are optimised to death in SSE and/or Altivec. For RE we simply map the code to normal scalar processing. Our synths would kill Reason... they're unreasonable, quite literally.
OTOH we've followed RE closely, and it has evolved quite a bit over its first year. Maybe in a year we can do a synth
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 24 Jun, 2012
As I wrote earlier, have to wait and hope for the best to comeUrs wrote:OTOH we've followed RE closely, and it has evolved quite a bit over its first year. Maybe in a year we can do a synth
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 9 Jan, 2007 from Denmark
I have a question (or maybe rather asking for a feature?) for all your current REs: It would be great if they would automatically keep the Dry/Wet knob at 100% Wet when used on effects sends in the rack/mixer, just like all other effects (in the rack or REs) already do - at least the ones I use. It is quite cumbersome to dial the knob every time you select another preset, when auditioning them to search for a desired starting point...
Apart from that, I am a big fan of Uhbik-A and -D. They are in my Reason song template as send effects and I use them somewhere in pretty much every track! They sound great and have so much to offer, plus they are really great companions to the sound of The Echo and RV7000.
Apart from that, I am a big fan of Uhbik-A and -D. They are in my Reason song template as send effects and I use them somewhere in pretty much every track! They sound great and have so much to offer, plus they are really great companions to the sound of The Echo and RV7000.
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- u-he
- 30240 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
We do this in Uhbik-A already (as far as possible), but it doesn't make sense in the others. All other Uhbiks with a Dry/Wet knob are not typically send effects, they are typically inserts and the "Dryness" is part of the sound design. E.g. a Flanger with 100% wetness doesn't flange at all, similarly the frequency shifter doesn't barber pole and the phaser doesn't phase.vrprorg wrote:I have a question (or maybe rather asking for a feature?) for all your current REs: It would be great if they would automatically keep the Dry/Wet knob at 100% Wet when used on effects sends in the rack/mixer, just like all other effects (in the rack or REs) already do - at least the ones I use. It is quite cumbersome to dial the knob every time you select another preset, when auditioning them to search for a desired starting point...
Clemens tells me it is possible to unlink the Dry/Wet from the preset, but it isn't possible to distinguish between inserts and sends. If you know REs which do this, let us know and we can investigate that option.
- Urs
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 24 Jun, 2012
Well, things has developed a lot since my last post. Decided to reinstall Reaper and buy a license for Diva(I just couldn't live without her)EvilDragon wrote:I see nothing wrong in rewiring Reason and Reaper. Actually I am demoing Reason right now. I find its MIDI editing really clunky and quite slower than Reaper. Reaper's customizability runs circles around it...
TBH I'm looking at Reason as a synth expansion module with intricate wiring possibilities, but not really as a DAW, although it can record. I am much, MUCH faster working in Reaper, both audio and MIDI.
In fact I'm now quite happy with Reaper, so we will see if I ditch Reason in the future... Most important of all, I now have the Diva and I'm not dependent of it coming to Reason or not. So I am a very happy man