KVR Audio

TheKid · Post by **TheKid** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:45 am

I really wonder why synths like Massive and Sylenth get pounded with sound sets/presets while Lush 101 seems to get completely ignored. I know Massive and Sylenth are around for quite some time. Lush itself seems really nice but the amount of third party presets is really low.

Aiyn Zahev's flight path presets are really nice and vintagesynthpads did some vintage sounds (not my style) but that's all I think.

Where is the love?

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:47 am

TheKid wrote:I really wonder why synths like Massive and Sylenth get pounded with sound sets/presets while Lush 101 seems to get completely ignored. I know Massive and Sylenth are around for quite some time. Lush itself seems really nice but the amount of third party presets is really low.

Aiyn Zahev's flight path presets are really nice and vintagesynthpads did some vintage sounds (not my style) but that's all I think.

Where is the love?

Perhaps that's because TAL Bassline-101 came a little after, and got the basics better covered (and it is cheaper).

ariston · Post by **ariston** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:59 am

1. The GUI is irritatingly small.

2. The CPU usage is ludicrous for what you get - and this is speaking as a Diva and Synth Squad user.

3. For the pure SH-101 sound, you've got the excellent TAL Bassline as a cheaper alternative.

YMMV as to these gripes, but that's why I personally find it hard to love Lush.

PatchAdamz · Post by **PatchAdamz** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:03 am

Lush is GREAT, personally one of my favorite synths.
Its capable of some great sounds.

Here is a tune done entirely with many tracks of only Lush (except drums) and the "Lush Life" presets.
http://snd.sc/1gemEPQ

It has a quality reminiscent of hardware but smoother.

Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:06 am

ariston wrote: 2. The CPU usage is ludicrous for what you get - and this is speaking as a Diva and Synth Squad user.

For me only this. Makes it unfortunately rather unuseful to me no matter how great it can sound.

Brittlestem · Post by **Brittlestem** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:53 am

ariston wrote:1. The GUI is irritatingly small.

2. The CPU usage is ludicrous for what you get - and this is speaking as a Diva and Synth Squad user.

3. For the pure SH-101 sound, you've got the excellent TAL Bassline as a cheaper alternative.

YMMV as to these gripes, but that's why I personally find it hard to love Lush.

4. None of these issues will ever be addressed - D16 are shit at updating their stuff or responding to user issues, especially in contrast to U-He.

Timfonie · Post by **Timfonie** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:10 am

Nielzie wrote:
ariston wrote: 2. The CPU usage is ludicrous for what you get - and this is speaking as a Diva and Synth Squad user.
For me only this. Makes it unfortunately rather unuseful to me no matter how great it can sound.

Exactly the main reason why I didn't get Lush-101. I can live with the small UI but the cripling CPU tax makes it a no go.
That's a pitty because it IS a very good sounding synth with capabilities going far beyond that of TAL Basslline-101 and with a different sound character from Diva and Synth Squad.
CPU tax is the most mentioned reason why people are dissapointed in Lush-101 after all.

electro · Post by **electro** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:22 am

re_mute wrote:4. None of these issues will ever be addressed - D16 are shit at updating their stuff or responding to user issues, especially in contrast to U-He.

d16 are not updating their drum machines, but they published a road map for Lush updates.

Timfonie · Post by **Timfonie** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:34 am

electro wrote:
re_mute wrote:4. None of these issues will ever be addressed - D16 are shit at updating their stuff or responding to user issues, especially in contrast to U-He.
d16 are not updating their drum machines, but they published a road map for Lush updates.

Unfortunately nothing mentioned about better CPU optimisation.

jethrobull · Post by **jethrobull** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:37 am

Timfonie wrote:
Nielzie wrote:
ariston wrote: 2. The CPU usage is ludicrous for what you get - and this is speaking as a Diva and Synth Squad user.
For me only this. Makes it unfortunately rather unuseful to me no matter how great it can sound.
Exactly the main reason why I didn't get Lush-101. I can live with the small UI but the cripling CPU tax makes it a no go.
That's a pitty because it IS a very good sounding synth with capabilities going far beyond that of TAL Basslline-101 and with a different sound character from Diva and Synth Squad.
CPU tax is the most mentioned reason why people are dissapointed in Lush-101 after all.

I've found it very demanding on CPU just like others but thats only on some factory presets. It has 8 layers so technically its like having 8 LuSH 101's running.
I just start with one layer and find that's nearly always enough to create a nice sounding patch esp when you consider the built in fx.
Saying that for people who like just to use presets it certainly wouldn't be a go-to synth.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:55 am

ariston wrote: 3. For the pure SH-101 sound, you've got the excellent TAL Bassline as a cheaper alternative.

As I said

dexterbella · Post by **dexterbella** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:00 pm

According to the latest forum post on their website D16 are working on an update to LuSH that should include a larger GUI and multicore support.

Timfonie · Post by **Timfonie** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:09 pm

dexterbella wrote:.. and multicore support.

Good to know!

I had no problem playing mono sounds, even on more complicated patches. Chords however were the deal breaker, even in the lower quality mode. When different voices can be spread out to different cores that'll be great. Back to bouncing!

Kaboom75 · Post by **Kaboom75** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:17 pm

I love the Lush sound but the no multicore support meant I could not run it on a 3.4Ghz first gen i7. I will demo it again when it goes multicore.

Rah · Post by **Rah** » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:44 pm

I think calling it 101 is a problem of sorts; it's gone pretty darn far from the 101 we all know and love. And now it's seeing a lot of comparison with the TAL machine, which is a pretty damn perfect emulation of a 101, and cheap as chips, yet really, a totally different beast

Where is the love for D16 Lush 101?