KVR Audio

crazyfiltertweaker · Post by **crazyfiltertweaker** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:22 am

Many synthesizer like Massive have unsiono functions, but is there also a vst fo it to set a different amount of voices and the detuning of them? I cant find something, except pitch shifters and chorus or harmony plugins like harmony engine!

Someone have an idea? And it must be 64 Bit, I dont use Bitbridgges.

The_Hidden_Goose · Post by **The_Hidden_Goose** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:46 am

U-He ACE has unison, with customizable detune settings.

I still use 32-Bit, but I'm fairly sure there's a 64bit version.

It's (semi)modular by design, but it's pre-patched with fairly standard synth routings (until you start attaching wires and change things up!).

Jerre · Post by **Jerre** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:03 am

Michael1985 wrote: is there also a vst fo it to set a different amount of voices and the detuning of them?

Do you mean a VST which would load multiple instances of a third party plugin and through midi pitch bending or so create unisono? Should be possible, but not sure if it exists...

The_Hidden_Goose · Post by **The_Hidden_Goose** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:15 am

That sounds like a mission to me! ACE just lets you pick the stacking (#voices) and let's you set the detuning for each.

There's a polyphony limit that is affected by unison, so you'd probably need to put it into "many voices" setting if you plan on playing thick chords and such. Not sure how all that affects the CPU usage (I expect there's a significant hit), but there are options to turn on multi-core spreading and 3 quality settings that you can play with if you find it's beating up your CPU.

It's nowhere near as hardcore on the CPU as Diva though. Diva has unison, and I think you can fiddle with the detune settings on that too, in the trimmers section - not 100% sure on that one though as it's been a while since I've demoed it (holding off on the new beta, as I don't want to tease myself with something I can't afford atm!). Likewise, there'll probably be polyphony limits on that too with extreme stacking and big chords.

mutools · Post by **mutools** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:03 am

MUX oscillators let you edit the unison/super layers in full detail. Up to 25 super layers per oscillator, and as many oscillators as you want! For more info on MUX, click here.

The_Hidden_Goose · Post by **The_Hidden_Goose** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:38 am

That's interesting...and no hardwired polyphony limits? (other than cpu/memory physical limits)

Might be worth me having another look at it myself - been looking for another modular setup that's a bit less of a bugbear than synthedit! I vaguely remember MUX operating a bit like audiomulch, which I played with a fair bit when I was first starting music. One thing I remember doing a fair bit was taking the Left & Right outputs and processing them seperately with different things - is that possible in MUX?

Sorry to hijack the thread a bit with that question - ignore it if u like. Might just pick up the demo again.

mutools · Post by **mutools** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:54 am

Replying as brief as possible, in respect for the OP.

The_Hidden_Goose wrote:That's interesting...and no hardwired polyphony limits?

Max polyphony per PolySynth currently is 48, but if it would be really necessary that could be extended, no prob technically. Up to now, no one asked for it. Also because this polyphony number is no to compare with numbers out of the hardware past, which counted each and every oscillator voice. Each MUX PolySynth polyphone is a complete modular patch as fat as you want! (and thus within such patch, each of the oscillators can do up to 25 super layers, all within the same polyphone)

One thing I remember doing a fair bit was taking the Left & Right outputs and processing them seperately with different things - is that possible in MUX?

Sure!

Might just pick up the demo again.

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For more MUX specific questions feel free to open a topic on the Kvr MuTools forum.

Hopefully the OP is also interested in the above info.

crazyfiltertweaker · Post by **crazyfiltertweaker** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:02 am

Sorry!

My explaination was not exactly enough!

I mean to VSTi, I mean a effect plugin, which you can load as insert for using it with different instruments and audio tracks!

The_Hidden_Goose · Post by **The_Hidden_Goose** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:10 am

I would think harmony/pitch shifter type effect would be what you're after in that case.

I vaguely remember there being something Octo.....something. Wracking my brain trying to remember it!

You could try something like "SpatHarmo 8" by Acousmodules. Free, if I remember right.

The_Hidden_Goose · Post by **The_Hidden_Goose** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:14 am

After a bit of searching the database, I found what I was thinking of...

Octav8r by De La Mancha. Made with SE, so no good to you, sorry! (No 64Bit)
So is SpatHarmo, so that's no good either.

However, if you do a search on Kvr under PitchShifter / Time-Stretch category then you should get some results to check out.

crazyfiltertweaker · Post by **crazyfiltertweaker** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:34 am

The_Hidden_Goose wrote:
You could try something like "SpatHarmo 8" by Acousmodules. Free, if I remember right.

Interesting!

Because I cant speak French very well, could you tell me, if they have 64 Bit Versions of their plugins?

I dont use bitbridges like jbridge bvecause they are not very stable with my system! (tried alot and after hours of anger it is enough, believe me...)