Is there a serious competitor to GSI VB3?

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KVRAF
6179 posts since 20 Jan, 2008

Post Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:59 pm

I don't have kontakt and hence don't have B4
I'm currently using Organized Trio from which I gather was the predecessor to Vb3

I tried Illadis Euthymia and Taips AZR3 while a worthwhile effort they fall short of the b3 expectations.

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10240 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head

Post Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:40 pm

Combo Model V and Combo Model F are pretty good free Hammond simulations, too:

http://www.martinic.com

KVRAF
8881 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:25 pm

Tricky-Loops wrote:Combo Model V and Combo Model F are pretty good free Hammond simulations, too:

http://www.martinic.com
Neither one of those are Hammond simulations. "Hammond" is a brand, not a type of organ per se. When people talk about "Hammond Organs" they're generally talking about tonewheel organs, particularly the B3 and similar organs. These organs are often played through a leslie speaker sim. That's what VB3 is mainly a model of.

ComboV and ComboF are models of transistor organs (i.e. electric organs): the Vox Continental and Farfisa Compact respectively. These are sometimes called "combo organs." These are known for being bright, and a bit cheesy, and sound a lot different than B3's and similar tonewheel/leslie organs.

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KVRAF
2291 posts since 18 Apr, 2001 from The Netherlands

Post Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:37 pm

Just for some sound perspective :hihi:

Famous Hammond sounds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfAWReBmxEs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb3iPP-tHdA

Famous transistor organ sound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iSXrZYhJt4



How a transistor organ can sound anything but cheesy (hint: there's no electric guitar in this song ;))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxmt781-R00

Robert Jan Stips (Supersister) is the king of the screeming electric organ :D
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4836 posts since 6 May, 2002

Post Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:04 am

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KVRAF
34423 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from another dimension

Post Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:21 am

You don't have to own a full copy of Kontakt to purchase Vintage Organs.

http://www.native-instruments.com/en/pr ... ge-organs/

It is comprehensive and will run in the free player. 32bit and 64bit. Whatever you need.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9DRfeNHKGw
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KVRAF
4836 posts since 6 May, 2002

Post Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:54 am

with samples you don't get phase synced chords.
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KVRAF
34423 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from another dimension

Post Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:57 am

electro wrote:with samples you don't get phase syncd chords.
Exactly. That's why VO sounds so awsum.

BTW: There are plenty of legendary presets included.
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KVRAF
10262 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris

Post Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:57 am

fwiw you can get pretty versatile results if you pass any *dry* organ sound into Xils Lx-122 Lezlie sim.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsknGynsJeo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBKtwWwpGfE
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10240 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head

Post Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:34 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:Combo Model V and Combo Model F are pretty good free Hammond simulations, too:

http://www.martinic.com
ComboV and ComboF are models of transistor organs (i.e. electric organs): the Vox Continental and Farfisa Compact respectively. These are sometimes called "combo organs." These are known for being bright, and a bit cheesy, and sound a lot different than B3's and similar tonewheel/leslie organs.
Nevertheless, they sound more like a B3 than the Illadis stuff, IME.

And as the OP has mentioned some free organ VSTi (without samples), I guess that he's looking for a free organ plugin and not for a $400 Original Hammond B3 high quality sample library...

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KVRAF
32818 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:06 am

I prefer the one that comes with Logic/Mainstage

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KVRAF
21909 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:17 am

IMHO no, VB3 is still the king.

KVRAF
4836 posts since 6 May, 2002

Post Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:18 am

Aloysius wrote:
electro wrote:with samples you don't get phase syncd chords.
Exactly. That's why VO sounds so awsum.

BTW: There are plenty of legendary presets included.
How is that a good thing when real tonewheels are always in phase sync?
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Post Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:18 am

crimsonwarlock wrote:Just for some sound perspective :hihi:

Famous Hammond sounds:
I did a blog article about famous sounds awhile back, You may enjoy even though it appears you are already quite knowledgeable on the matter.

http://tappermike.com/?q=node/32

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KVRAF
34423 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from another dimension

Post Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:20 am

electro wrote:
Aloysius wrote:
electro wrote:with samples you don't get phase syncd chords.
Exactly. That's why VO sounds so awsum.

BTW: There are plenty of legendary presets included.
How is that a good thing when real tonewheels are always in phase sync?
I don't know. That's all I know. :)
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