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magicmusic · Post by **magicmusic** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:22 pm

I dont find anything as this, after longer search

I need a VST plugin that let me add inside other VST plugin audio effects as inserts.I want combine a good chorus, reverb, step sequencer gate, filter, pitch shifter, stereo width reducer/enhancer VST. sure i can all add in a mixer channel, but i want a setting done to create a nice pad and store at once in 1 file. So when i load the file, the settings of all effect plugins are set, i use in this VST plugin

Is something available, and whats the name ?
I see there are very few good multieffects here. there is warmverb, but stereo width can not reduce, and the gate have no step sequencer.

Or if not something is here Maybe somebody know a plugin, that offer all features i need.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:25 pm

http://www.kvraudio.com/product/chainer ... op/details

crimsonwarlock · Post by **crimsonwarlock** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:27 pm

You are looking for this one:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/multifxvst-by-ctaf

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:44 pm

bidule
energyXT
chainer
vstforx
patchwork
magma
metaplugin
fl

Mister Natural · Post by **Mister Natural** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:49 pm

native to LIVE - it's called a rack

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:52 pm

With MUX you can create your own effects!

crimsonwarlock · Post by **crimsonwarlock** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:42 am

Mister Natural wrote:native to LIVE - it's called a rack

Reaper also let you save full FX-configurations (including instruments) and complete track-setups. I used MultiFXvst ages ago when I was still using Orion, because the limitation on the amount of inserts in that host (at that time, don't know if that's still the case). Now with Reaper I don't need it anymore, but it's still on my HD.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:46 am

Tricky-Loops wrote:With MUX you can create your own effects!

bugger, i knew id forget at least one.

eidenk · Post by **eidenk** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:58 am

Console
VstBoard
EffectChainer
Usine

Breeze · Post by **Breeze** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:09 pm

EvilDragon wrote:http://www.kvraudio.com/product/chainer ... op/details

As much as I still like and use Chainer, I suggest people look elsewhere:.

- Some newer plugins don't work with it.
- The author has categorically said that he has no intention of updating it.
- It was developed in VST 2.3.

I would definitely spend my money on something more recent and actively developed.

A shame really, because it's still the smallest, tightest, most solid and most efficiently written VST host ever. The last revision of this host was in 2002! And if I'm not mistaken, it's one of the few, if only self-contained hosts that can be stand-alone AND plugin: it can even host itself. Interesting that in 12 years no one's done something as flexible as this. Then again maybe that's why Xlutop hasn't felt a pressing need to improve on their already outstanding work.

Breeze · Post by **Breeze** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 3:57 pm

I'm curious: out of all the sub-hosts listed in this thread, other than Chainer, which can be both standalone host AND plugin? TIA

Architeuthis · Post by **Architeuthis** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:23 pm

How come no one has taken the idea of Artillery / Effectrix / Glitch and made it into an effect chainer where you can load your own VSTs and create your own parameters and trigger your own effects, roll your own!?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:34 pm

Breeze wrote:I'm curious: out of all the sub-hosts listed in this thread, other than Chainer, which can be both standalone host AND plugin? TIA

bidule
energyXT
chainer
fl
MUX
Console
vstboard (?)
The old version of Usine

Breeze · Post by **Breeze** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:57 pm

whyterabbyt wrote: bidule
energyXT
chainer
fl
MUX
Console
vstboard (?)
The old version of Usine

Thanks for the list. Are you sure about MUX? AFAICT, MUX is only a plugin though the basic MuLab host is free.

To the OP: I think there's a relevant distinction that needs to be made between all the hosts mentioned in this thread: some are just basic racks, like Chainer, Patchwork, MultifxVST... and others require the user to wire their own connections like Bidule, Metaplugin, VSTForx, Console...

Both have their merits. Wiring your own allows a much greater flexibility in experimental design while the rack types are much faster to instantiate a string of conventional plugins. In general, I have a tendency to use the racks more often and wired ones less, but I've accomplished some crazy things with the wired ones that I could never have done with the racks. FYI...

Breeze · Post by **Breeze** » Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:10 pm

Architeuthis wrote:How come no one has taken the idea of Artillery / Effectrix / Glitch and made it into an effect chainer where you can load your own VSTs and create your own parameters and trigger your own effects, roll your own!?

StutterEdit is another. I suspect that some conventional VST plugins might fail in the live automation and latency departments. You need some really tight automation to do this live so effects used in that environment are likely super optimized for this, sometimes probably even at the expense of audio quality.

I'd sure like to see something like this simply because it would be a real stress test of parameter automation for a lot of plugins out there...

VST plugin that allow inside 4 or more VST plugins to save a multi vst effect