does zebra only use 1 core?
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
- 2276 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
cause i have a powerful pc coming in a few days.
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
I think Urs mentioned that: yes, mainly due some modulation matrix architecture?
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
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- 2276 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
so if i have an i7, it wont spread the load out to other cores as the cpu increases? urs?3ee wrote:I think Urs mentioned that: yes, mainly due some modulation matrix architecture?
- KVRAF
- 4141 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
That is only partially correct. Each individual instance of zebra only uses a single core. However, your DAW can execute multiple separate instances on multiple cores at the same time. I use Reaper and it works well doing this. Live should work equally as well.
- KVRAF
- 5564 posts since 13 Jan, 2005 from the bottom of my heart
isn't it a general rule that if your DAW deal with multi-core you should turn off the multi-core support of the single vsti anyway?
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
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- 2276 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
bmrzycki wrote:That is only partially correct. Each individual instance of zebra only uses a single core. However, your DAW can execute multiple separate instances on multiple cores at the same time. I use Reaper and it works well doing this. Live should work equally as well.
see, i don't understand this. i asked the same question about another vsti. so whats the difference between plugins with built in multicore like diva/halion sonic vs using daw multicore?
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- KVRAF
- 35708 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
As far as i understood it, on VST's with multicore support, every instance will utilize multiple cores to process it, while VST's which use only single core, every instance will only make use of one core. But, if you have 4 instances for example, each of it can run on another core, so basically, you have the same thing more or less. I wouldn't worry too much about that anyway, as Zebra is supposed to be not that demanding on CPU power, unless you do really complex stuff. And even then, a i7 will be more than enough.
- KVRAF
- 9600 posts since 17 Sep, 2002 from Gothenburg Sweden
Actually you most likely don't want it.AstralExistence wrote:cause i have a powerful pc coming in a few days.
Multithreading a plugin actually makes it less efficient. All threads have to wait for the slowest one.
The reason you might want it is if you have an extremely CPU thirsty plugin that saturates a single core. Hence Diva and Kontakt are but most aren't.
If you have a new powerful PC coming you most certainly don't need it neither want it.
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
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- 2276 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
well if i don't need or want my i7 you can have it.jupiter8 wrote:Actually you most likely don't want it.AstralExistence wrote:cause i have a powerful pc coming in a few days.
Multithreading a plugin actually makes it less efficient. All threads have to wait for the slowest one.
The reason you might want it is if you have an extremely CPU thirsty plugin that saturates a single core. Hence Diva and Kontakt are but most aren't.
If you have a new powerful PC coming you most certainly don't need it neither want it.
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
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- 2276 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
lol. no im sorry. ive had my first gen quadcore with 3 peasly gigs of ram since 2008. i look forward to giving squareface #4 the fingerchk071 wrote:jupiter8 wrote: If you have a new powerful PC coming you most certainly don't need it neither want it.
I'll take it with pleasure.
- KVRAF
- 4812 posts since 21 Jan, 2008 from oO
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10263 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
Intel i-series processors over the past several years have been quite stronger than their AMD 'counterparts' in per core processing.. meaning even though you are still only using one core to process a non-threaded application (or VSTi in this case), you should see a noticeable improvement in lower cpu % used... as they're more efficient.
However, Just because someone has a 2, 4, 8, 16, 304182819280183021 core processor doesn't mean the software has been programmed to accommodate using all of those cores per application. Think of a processor core as a human brain. A human brain cannot multi-task. It can do one thing at a time and must divide it's time between multiple tasks. But in a multi-core processor, your computer has multiple 'brains' to thus work on multiple tasks. However, the software has to be programmed to allow for the load to be divided between cores. Otherwise the whole single app ends up on one core versus splitting between. So there are two ways here to split the load: Either 1 application on 1 core or 1 application on many cores.
If you want to know more, check wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_%28computing%29
However, Just because someone has a 2, 4, 8, 16, 304182819280183021 core processor doesn't mean the software has been programmed to accommodate using all of those cores per application. Think of a processor core as a human brain. A human brain cannot multi-task. It can do one thing at a time and must divide it's time between multiple tasks. But in a multi-core processor, your computer has multiple 'brains' to thus work on multiple tasks. However, the software has to be programmed to allow for the load to be divided between cores. Otherwise the whole single app ends up on one core versus splitting between. So there are two ways here to split the load: Either 1 application on 1 core or 1 application on many cores.
If you want to know more, check wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_%28computing%29
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- KVRAF
- 35708 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Actually, the human brain CAN multi task. But it won't be doing 2 things at the same time, with the same concentration, and dedication, as it would be doing one thing at a time. And that's also the big difference to a computer, because a computer doesn't know things like concentration of dedication.
It'll do the job the same way every time.
