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Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:21 am

Hi guys, when i press play in my daw lfo even when set to gate always start at a random postion ,same for the mod map ? is it the normal behavior or a bug?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:43 am

Can you send us a patch? -> support at u-he dot com

As for ModMapper - really depends on the mode. "Alternate" just walks through it and never resets. Which is something we would like to make an option.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 11:44 am

Urs wrote:"Alternate" just walks through it and never resets. Which is something we would like to make an option.

This would be awesome!

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:32 pm

sorry i mean the trigger , note the gate , i wonder if it s possible to have the lfo start at always the same point and then run like it happen in other u-he synths.
i sent you a patch

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:51 pm

In others u-he synth there is a sync option, that will make the lfo start when pressing play , it s what i m trying to do, is it possible?

Something not related to this but i noticed the voice lfo can act strange, it can change other time wihtout any reason to do so, when set to 1/1 it can run 1 bar and cycle is waveform normaly and the next bar will be totally different when z2 set to mono not sure this should happen ?

maybe it's me but if you could check if the lfo work as they should in last version

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:04 pm

so no one have troubles with the lfo? can't believe people use these to make sound if it can be set to start in sync /clocked , it would be so limiting , maybe a bug in bitwig?

Erkenfresh · Post by **Erkenfresh** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 9:19 pm

Hi Synthetic Wav! I believe you are having the same "problem" I was having when I first used Zebra. If you use an LFO and set it to gate then the LFO starts at the same position every time a note is played. This doesn't work well if you want an LFO to transition through it's cycle across several notes.

Instead you should use a Global LFO or LFOG. Set the Global LFO's trigger to whatever you'd like. A good 8/1 LFO for example might retrigger every 8 bars. That should get you going!

(By the way, the manual helps make this clearer.)

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:57 pm

yeah thanks for the help but it don't work here it's for that i created this thread ,there is something weird with the lfos, or bitwig, but only zebra have this problem. it make it uselss for me right now..i rather go for others synth cause of this

Also dunno if it s just me but the lfos are not really intuitive in u-he synth, something could indicate spots when using the rate parameter for example.

Gone soft · Post by **Gone soft** » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:48 pm

Synthetic Wav wrote:Also dunno if it s just me but the lfos are not really intuitive in u-he synth, something could indicate spots when using the rate parameter for example.

Not just you, I kind of agree on this one. The rate parameter is actually so impractical to work with that someone has made a thing called "Zebra Rate Calculator"... I just checked some basic values now, and for instance to half the rate you need to set the knob to 79.37, double speed = rate knob set to 125.992 which is a value that doesn't precisely excist but for most purposes I guess 125.99 should be close enough.. So many spots won't actually exist as the rate parameter just isn't tuned for hitting them precisely..

Erkenfresh · Post by **Erkenfresh** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:45 am

Now I can agree with that. Perhaps this is another enhancement request for Zebra 3? Fabfilter did a good job with this in their plugins. They had little circles around the knob indicating 1/2x or 2x and you could click on the circle to go right to it.

Synthetic Wav · Post by **Synthetic Wav** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:08 am

yep the way it's implemented with fabfilter product it's easier and take way less time to fine tune a lfo, same with their delay times on timeline i find it's well done.

tbh , i use zebra 2 since years, but i have sold rebuy a few times..their is some spot i use in other synths that i could never reach with the lfo, while it take me 2 minutes in most synth to set up . i tought i m a bit stupid but look like i m not the only one with trouble with the way it's implemented.

Erkenfresh · Post by **Erkenfresh** » Sun Dec 07, 2014 3:31 pm

The Zebra LFOs tend to work in a way that's different than other synths. But that's because it's better. Most synths don't do a sync'd LFO per voice. Once I understood that, it made a lot of sense why it was done that way.

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