Hye guys, finished another piece using Zebra, Zebralette, Bazille, and my newly aquired MFM. All percussion comes from Reason though with more notes on the site.
https://soundcloud.com/raven-2741/the-ascendant-spirit
U-he stuff rules
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- KVRist
- 470 posts since 11 Aug, 2005 from Canada
Last edited by rockmachine on Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
U-he 
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
actually... it's u-he
just take a look at the logo
@rockmachine, pleasant sounding tracks you've been posting lately, including this one!
sound seems a bit "forced" in some spots tho...
just take a look at the logo
@rockmachine, pleasant sounding tracks you've been posting lately, including this one!
sound seems a bit "forced" in some spots tho...-
- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Indeed it is3ee wrote:actually... it's u-he
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
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- Banned
- 1181 posts since 24 Jun, 2014 from Giza Plateau
you-hear it! 
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 470 posts since 11 Aug, 2005 from Canada
*rockmachine bad* U-he good, stands corrected. Takes the rap for mistype. 
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- KVRAF
- 2138 posts since 8 Feb, 2007
Actually, it's pronounced "you-Heard it"valerian_777 wrote:you-hear it!
Professional technicians are assessed by the abilities they possess.
Amateur technicians are assessed by the tools they possess - and the amount of those tools, with an obvious preference to the latest hyped ones.
(Gabe Dumbbell)
Amateur technicians are assessed by the tools they possess - and the amount of those tools, with an obvious preference to the latest hyped ones.
(Gabe Dumbbell)
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- KVRAF
- 8563 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
Its think it's based on the main developer's name, U(rs)-He(ckman)
or Yoo-Hoo chocolate drinks!
or Yoo-Hoo chocolate drinks!
The only site for experimental amp sim freeware & MIDI FX: http://runbeerrun.blogspot.com
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCprNcvVH6aPTehLv8J5xokA -Youtube jams
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCprNcvVH6aPTehLv8J5xokA -Youtube jams
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- KVRist
- 406 posts since 27 Feb, 2014 from France
U-he stuff sound great ! but it feel like everything is in beta and they release new products while they could fix the old ones or make these better..anyway it's how it work !
Most of their product don't feel complete and could be enhanced to me , bazille could have modularity on the fx, ace and zebra could have bazille filter ect ..to me i clearly hear their synths core sound get better and better..but the old one are not updated to new technology..i like these a lot so i wish it was
Most of their product don't feel complete and could be enhanced to me , bazille could have modularity on the fx, ace and zebra could have bazille filter ect ..to me i clearly hear their synths core sound get better and better..but the old one are not updated to new technology..i like these a lot so i wish it was
Analog electronic drum samples (Free demo pack)
http://www.syntheticwav.com
http://www.syntheticwav.com
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
Oh c'mon Synthetic Wav, you're clearly over-reacting because subjective stuff won't get implemented and probably waiting impatiently for Zebra3 like everyone else...
In short:
-what do you mean by "fix"? is there actually something "wrong" or serious bugs that stops someone from using the software?
-old products get better progressively and Hive is another step closer to Zebra3 in terms of tech, like Bazille was/is... I'm sure FM and PD tech from there will get implemented in Zebra3, thus against common sense to release Zebra3 before Bazille and Hive for example...
-Diva is being worked on as well as others that we don't know about... a cool new update is imminent in the near future with cool new modules AFAIK!
-"most of their products don't feel complete"? I think that's a subjective opinion I don't agree with, IMO, the only one that actually feels a bit left behind is Zebrify. (powerful modular effect rack, totally underrated! )
They can't implement some apparently "simple" features that easily... Bazille's effect architecture is monophonic AFAIK and can cause disasters if one tries to modulate things there regarding it's "voice stack" architecture, not sure how it works but payed attention around the forum to understand some aspects about why it's hard to make some things happen...
I believe everyone of us would like to see updates of our favorite synths but we don't moan around always feeling disappointing or what not... c'mon man, at least be fair!
In short:
-what do you mean by "fix"? is there actually something "wrong" or serious bugs that stops someone from using the software?
-old products get better progressively and Hive is another step closer to Zebra3 in terms of tech, like Bazille was/is... I'm sure FM and PD tech from there will get implemented in Zebra3, thus against common sense to release Zebra3 before Bazille and Hive for example...
-Diva is being worked on as well as others that we don't know about... a cool new update is imminent in the near future with cool new modules AFAIK!
-"most of their products don't feel complete"? I think that's a subjective opinion I don't agree with, IMO, the only one that actually feels a bit left behind is Zebrify. (powerful modular effect rack, totally underrated! )
They can't implement some apparently "simple" features that easily... Bazille's effect architecture is monophonic AFAIK and can cause disasters if one tries to modulate things there regarding it's "voice stack" architecture, not sure how it works but payed attention around the forum to understand some aspects about why it's hard to make some things happen...
I believe everyone of us would like to see updates of our favorite synths but we don't moan around always feeling disappointing or what not... c'mon man, at least be fair!
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 470 posts since 11 Aug, 2005 from Canada
I'm with you 3ee and I don't get the feeling of stuff being in beta mode at all when I have almost glitch free use of everything including Zebra, Zebralette, Bazille, Uhbik and MFM. Not to mention the ease with which updates go. Whenever I do have problems, it usually seems more to do with good old Cubase 7 than anything else. I'm also happy to have a company that's so responsive to the user base and would rather accept longer times between updates than the releasing of things before they've gone through the ringers. There's a good reason I go to U-he synths and effects when I have a horde of other things I could go to.
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- KVRAF
- 26995 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Synthetic Wav wrote:U-he stuff sound great ! but it feel like everything is in beta and they release new products while they could fix the old ones or make these better..anyway it's how it work !
Most of their product don't feel complete and could be enhanced to me , bazille could have modularity on the fx, ace and zebra could have bazille filter ect ..to me i clearly hear their synths core sound get better and better..but the old one are not updated to new technology..i like these a lot so i wish it was
Bazille could have a lot of things. Just because you would like a synth to have a new feature does not make it incomplete. Bazille is a complete and well crafted product as is.
Bazille has great filters due to the new tech first presented in Diva. Zebra will benefit from that too. Things have to be done in a steady way. U-he cannot just swap a new filter into Ace or Zebra. They have to maintain preset compatibility for users old projects. Zebra 2 has had enough stuff added already. It needs a refresh, not another filter type dropped in there.
Zebra 3 will be a break with Z2. It will not be preset compatible so it will be free to re-write stuff and be a fresh implementation with new advances and integrated better with new concepts.
One of the great things about u-he is that they do exactly what you are asking for. Old products keep being developed. It just takes time to do it well. We all would like Zebra 3 today!!
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- KVRAF
- 4085 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
Synthetic Wav wrote:U-he stuff sound great ! but it feel like everything is in beta and they release new products while they could fix the old ones or make these better..anyway it's how it work !
Most of their product don't feel complete and could be enhanced to me , bazille could have modularity on the fx, ace and zebra could have bazille filter ect ..to me i clearly hear their synths core sound get better and better..but the old one are not updated to new technology..i like these a lot so i wish it was
You are completely confusing what "beta" means.
Does the product works as advertised? Does it has all the features it describes on the product page?
Yes? Then it is a finished product. Anything beyond product official specifications are "requests".
What is great about u-he is that hee keeps developing the products, and relative to other developers, at quite a fast pace. So in any case he offers more added value since he adds features over the original specs for free!
Other developers take years to fix bugs or get advertised functionality working, or in many cases they never do it. Arturia is a good example.
dedication to flying
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- u-he
- 30247 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
Well, as I said in one of the "Latest Builds" threads - we have to say good bye to the idea that software is ever finished. It's an illusion that something might look "complete". In fact, even a plug-in that has a static feature set needs to be updated time and time again for new operating systems, new computer paradigms and changes in plug-in technology. I think we're among the first guys who implement some sort of "dev ops" where there's always a beta version available with new features or fixes to be checked out (currently we're a bit behind with this due to Bazille, Presswerk and Hive though)
I'll be the first one to admit that we had a depressing time because we simply couldn't keep up while our stuff seemed to deteriorate. However, this has completely stopped after restructuring, hiring a dedicated QA guy and postponing VST3 and RE. Alongside Presswerk's final release and Hive's beta we're also preparing updates to ACE, Bazille and Satin with small fixes for pesky bugs that weren't caught before their last updates (but which don't occur in the plug-ins we didn't update).
It's constant work. We're trying to leverage as much as possible.
Hive for instance has a completely rewritten ModMatrix. This ModMatrix can be extended to work with multithreaded plug-ins. It isn't there yet, but it will be, unlike the old ModMatrix which was designed for Zebra 2 in 2004. Latter can't be used for multithreaded ("MultiCore") processing of voices. Which is why Zebra and Tyrell are not multithreaded while Diva, ACE and Bazille couldn't have ModMatrices (apart from my impression that ModMatrices don't fit the modulars so well).
So yes indeed, there's always something that's still being worked on.
Also, the newer stuff which has UIs designed by a dedicated, full time designer are on a completely different level than the ones I had to do myself "on the side". That's right, there's a guy at u-he who doesn't do anything else but move knobs. And one can see it. Bazille, Presswerk and now Hive feel completely different and much more rounded than, say, Zebra or even Diva (well, Diva has secretly been given a new UI with a much more consistent look and feel, available in the Latest Builds thread).
Yet, I surely hope we're not getting into that corporate metamorphosis type of development. I'd rather keep a beta-ish touch than build an anonymous "wall of professionalism" around us.
- Urs
I'll be the first one to admit that we had a depressing time because we simply couldn't keep up while our stuff seemed to deteriorate. However, this has completely stopped after restructuring, hiring a dedicated QA guy and postponing VST3 and RE. Alongside Presswerk's final release and Hive's beta we're also preparing updates to ACE, Bazille and Satin with small fixes for pesky bugs that weren't caught before their last updates (but which don't occur in the plug-ins we didn't update).
It's constant work. We're trying to leverage as much as possible.
Hive for instance has a completely rewritten ModMatrix. This ModMatrix can be extended to work with multithreaded plug-ins. It isn't there yet, but it will be, unlike the old ModMatrix which was designed for Zebra 2 in 2004. Latter can't be used for multithreaded ("MultiCore") processing of voices. Which is why Zebra and Tyrell are not multithreaded while Diva, ACE and Bazille couldn't have ModMatrices (apart from my impression that ModMatrices don't fit the modulars so well).
So yes indeed, there's always something that's still being worked on.
Also, the newer stuff which has UIs designed by a dedicated, full time designer are on a completely different level than the ones I had to do myself "on the side". That's right, there's a guy at u-he who doesn't do anything else but move knobs. And one can see it. Bazille, Presswerk and now Hive feel completely different and much more rounded than, say, Zebra or even Diva (well, Diva has secretly been given a new UI with a much more consistent look and feel, available in the Latest Builds thread).
Yet, I surely hope we're not getting into that corporate metamorphosis type of development. I'd rather keep a beta-ish touch than build an anonymous "wall of professionalism" around us.
- Urs