FR: MIDI Controller Rack to control external MIDI soundmodules

[Hermu]

MuLab 6.4.23:
to use a external MIDI soundmodule, it's possible to use a rack with Event Output connected to external MIDI soundmodules, but without Pitch Bend function support.
unfortunately have volume, pan, mute, solo no effect to a connected external MIDI soundmodule, because there are only audio controllers.

MIDI controller Rack could have the same look but with MIDI controller commands:
Volume (B0 07) 0..127 to control MIDI volume
Pan (B0 0A) 0..127 to control MIDI pan
Mute (B0 07 00) set MIDI volume to 0 and UnMute set to MIDI value to last MIDI volume value
Program Change (C0) 0..127
Bank Select MSB (B0 00) 0..127
Bank Select LSB (B0 20) 0..127
Channel 1..16

[Hermu]

Pity! It seems, support for external MIDI instruments is not planned ...

[MuTools]

MuLab does support external MIDI instruments. The specific FR you posted indeed is not planned on short term, sorry.

[Hermu]

MuLab does support external MIDI instruments. The specific FR you posted indeed is not planned on short term, sorry.

But without working Pitch Bend it's not realy usable

[MuTools]

You don't have to use a rack to use MIDI out.

[Hermu]

You don't have to use a rack to use MIDI out.

It makes no sense do not use racks with external MIDI instruments, because with this limitation it's not possible to color tracks, use arpeggiator, use drummap, etc.
this are massive limitations of a basic functionality, which are all other naming DAWs on market not have.
with entry level Cakewalk Music Creator i can do this all, which is not possible with MuLab.
Ok, your right, i don't have to use MuLab.

[MuTools]

You don't have to use a rack to use MIDI out.

It makes no sense do not use racks with external MIDI instruments, because with this limitation it's not possible to color tracks, use arpeggiator, use drummap, etc.

Absolutely untrue. You can do all that in a MUX in the project modular area.

[MuTools]

That said, i already said that there is a pitchbend problem when streaming MIDI events thru a rack's mixerstrip (ie. pre-fader all works ok, but they don't reach post-fader) and that i'll look into that. But that's completely something else than your starting post above which made you say that MuLab does not support external MIDI, which is absolutely untrue.

[Hermu]

You don't have to use a rack to use MIDI out.

It makes no sense do not use racks with external MIDI instruments, because with this limitation it's not possible to color tracks, use arpeggiator, use drummap, etc.

Absolutely untrue. You can do all that in a MUX in the project modular area.

Yes, i have tried to do this with MUX, but the result was ever a compromise and is not adequate compared to external MIDI support of other DAWs

[MuTools]

Yes, i have tried to do this with MUX, but the result was ever a compromise

Why?

[Hermu]

Yes, i have tried to do this with MUX, but the result was ever a compromise

Why?

1. Pitch Bend didn't work with racks
2. to use MUX within MuLab i have to use racks
3. can't realise Program Change with MUX
4. MIDI Controller Generator for MSB, LSB, Volume and Pan - channel must be selected separatly for each, channels could not draged outside to a front Panel or changed with 1 channel knob for all

to use MUX in the project modular area, it's to complex and unflexible

[MuTools]

1. Pitch Bend didn't work with racks

That's fixed in the M6.4.25 test version, see http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5#p6123325

2. to use MUX within MuLab i have to use racks

Not at all. You can use MUXes in the Project Modular Area. Click the Modular button on top, add a MUX there and do all kind of MIDI stuff in there, choose that MUX as a track target.

3. can't realise Program Change with MUX
4. MIDI Controller Generator for MSB, LSB, Volume and Pan - channel must be selected separatly for each, channels could not draged outside to a front Panel or changed with 1 channel knob for all

That's about your FR on top of this topic and indeed maybe other DAWs have a specialized MIDI mixer page including controller data MSB/LSB support that more fits your ideal. Such extra specific MIDI support is not planned on short term. Note that you can use/program such MIDI events in MuLab's Event List Editor, and eventually make preset sequences for them in your user library.

[Hermu]

1. Pitch Bend didn't work with racks

That's fixed in the M6.4.25 test version, see http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 5#p6123325

thank's for fixing Pitch Bend thru rack problem, now it works as expected

3. can't realise Program Change with MUX
4. MIDI Controller Generator for MSB, LSB, Volume and Pan - channel must be selected separatly for each, channels could not draged outside to a front Panel or changed with 1 channel knob for all

That's about your FR on top of this topic and indeed maybe other DAWs have a specialized MIDI mixer page including controller data MSB/LSB support that more fits your ideal. Such extra specific MIDI support is not planned on short term. Note that you can use/program such MIDI events in MuLab's Event List Editor, and eventually make preset sequences for them in your user library.

Program Change:
i have found midiProgramChange.dll on pizmidi which allows to select Program, MSB, LSB and Channel.
this makes it possible to use a external MIDI instrument similar a VST instrument plugin