MeldaProduction

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:06 pm

Hi Vojtech,

I think it's a very personal question, which maybe you wouldn't answer to, but I'm very interested after reading an interview with you. There you told, that you wouldn't be happy with the drums plugin on the market and you start Meldaproduction with mdrummer. Now my question, are you using only your own stuff for mixing and mastering or also other third party plugs and if so, which ones?

At the moment I'm at a point to sell many plugs of mine and go with the Melda stuff, which can achieve all sounds and can solve all mixing and mastering problems. So I can dig more into your stuff and don't have to learn all plugins and there possibilities, exceptional verb. But maybe there will come the day I will also sell my 2caudio breeze and valhalla vintage verb?

Thanks for your fantastic

What maybe would be great, more learning stuff about your plugs and there possibilities.

Greets

Marek

frizzbee · Post by **frizzbee** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:17 pm

Svama wrote:At the moment I'm at a point to sell many plugs of mine and go with the Melda stuff, which can achieve all sounds and can solve all mixing and mastering problems. So I can dig more into your stuff and don't have to learn all plugins and there possibilities, exceptional verb. But maybe there will come the day I will also sell my 2caudio breeze and valhalla vintage verb?

Don't do that... Different companies create different sounding plugins. It is always good having alternatives. Besides that its also the best to have fallback plugins, if one day the developer decides to make some weird stuff with its plugins. May it be a leak of care so you get plugins with heavy bugs or a new licensing model... Then you will think: damn

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:20 pm

First, frizzbee - it depends, but here's the best licence model out there and free for life updates, so you shouldn't worry. But of course, different company, different plugins. When it comes to the mentioned reverbs, it is very personal indeed.

Svama: I use only our plugins actually

. Except for instruments, where drums MDrummer only of course, MPowerSynth as the only synth (I was using Massive and a few more before, but not anymore...), but I use lots of acoustic instruments (piano, strings, brasses...) and currently on NI Komplete, good enough for me

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Svama · Post by **Svama** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:25 am

Thanks for the answer, other developers don't update there plugins after release, for example waves and not for free! And you never get that easy in touch with the developer and they aren't interested in your opinion. Vojtech is like one of us and implement ideas of us into his plugins, if it does make sense for him.

At the moment I own 10 comps, 10 eqs and so on. It doesn't make me faster in decisions of mixing, it's more the opposite and at the end they are all doing the same.
All companies are good at marketing and try to say this is the best xy plugin and show them in action with already good sounding audio examples, but this is not the true world at home recording and mixing.
The last time I was interested in plug-ins, which try to stimulate that analogue stuff, but like Vojtech, I'm getting closer to the opinion that there is not that magic in the plugins. What make the sounds are the using and mixing skills and nothing else.

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:27 am

Hi Vojtech,

I'm also very interested to hear some of your own music, where can I find it?

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:28 am

Thank you!
And yes, it's about skills and tools that are versatile enough... analog will die eventually, but I'm quite glad the 99% of the market is focusing on such dead area and leaving the rest to us

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I'm actually releasing a CD with my acoustic dnb band in a week, so then

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Tagirijus · Post by **Tagirijus** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 8:22 pm

I am veeery pleased to read that you do music on your own - very great! Would love to hear it, too.

Regarding the plugin discussion: I also do not get it why waves plugins 1. cost so much for a single plugin 2. have this really bad dongle DRM (I really hate complicated and unneccessary DRMs) 3. everyone is hyping them. I do not want to be an apple-polisher, but MP is way better in every aspect, hehe.

Alternative plugins may be good as a fallback, but at the moment I switched to MP plugins for nearly every task (except reverb, unfortunately! I'd love to use all from MP, hehe, but 2cAudio Breeze is a damn good reverb. Please forgive me, Vojtech.

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MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:57 pm

No biggie tagirijus, I'd like to get to another reverb design some day, but right now there are just way more original and interesting things to do

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And Waves & ProTools & Apple are so "famous" just because they spend a lot of money on keeping the situation as it was in 1980ths

. They have schools and stuff, so once you graduate and want to become a professional, you need to use these ancient tools, because the Studios expect you to do that... From what I know, most people are trying to get away, but if they do mixing/mastering for money, they are usually forced to use these things... But hey, they stay in middle ages, so we can freely evolve! And one day...

Nicolaibob · Post by **Nicolaibob** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:34 am

+1 in NI KOMPLETE and MTOTALBUNDLE is a great match supplementing each other well.

I really didn't need mdrummer and mpowersynth, but knowing the quality of Meldaproduction product, i bought them anyway - And haven't regretted it

I primarily use melda when i want clean surgical digital quality dsp sound - I use NI when i want something else.

But there are also areas where Melda doesn't excel yet...

In my tool box i also have:
Jamorigin's MIDI-Guitar (Guitar / BAS to MIDI). This plugin has only one slot for effects, and this makes the MXXX even more appreciated.
AudioFront DSPTrigger (Drums to MIDI)
IK Multimedia Accoustic Room Control 2
Stillwell Audio Schwa Spectro

Reaper - My favorite DAW.

In my wishlist (everything is so darn expensive) for live-recording material are:
Accusonus Drumatom (MDrumLeveler goes some of the way, but is event based - where DrumAtom seemes to be somewhat algorithmic in terms of relative mic-positioning)
Zynaptiq UNMIX::DRUMS (When it gets released - I love the fact that it uses the science of probability)

BTW - I have never had an issue with the melda's layout, though it isn't a one-knob-plugin-that-does-it-all-in-a-twist.

My only concern is, that sometimes i think MeldaProduction is a one-man-army - But then again. NI seemes notorisly to abandon instruments and plugins. And lately (in my subjectiveness) NI seems to be expanding to lots of other products, resulting in a lower new-product-rate / update-rate for the KOMPLETE series.

Best Regards,
Nicolai Bob

Tagirijus · Post by **Tagirijus** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:22 am

MeldaProduction wrote:No biggie tagirijus, I'd like to get to another reverb design some day, but right now there are just way more original and interesting things to do .

Of course there are more important things to do for MP - I understand that and I trust in MP. A new reverb from MP would be very promising though, hehe (at least the imagination ... new verb design with all the typical MP-control possibilities = mindblown).

MeldaProduction wrote: you need to use these ancient tools, because the Studios expect you to do that...

I HATE it when such things happen! It reminds me of prices. People often time seem to think that expensive is equal to quality. I had a crowdfunding last year for a sample library for foley artist sounds (I already made some other libraries, but in the CF I wanted to publish my library for fighting sounds like punches and kicks). The CF failed becaue of the financial concept (I would be paid once through the CF and afterwards it would be for free). I was told that people would like to see an expensive library so that they could assume that it has quality ... very sad.

MeldaProduction wrote:From what I know, most people are trying to get away, but if they do mixing/mastering for money, they are usually forced to use these things... But hey, they stay in middle ages, so we can freely evolve! And one day...

Very motivating!

Nicolaibob wrote: I really didn't need mdrummer and mpowersynth, but knowing the quality of Meldaproduction product, i bought them anyway - And haven't regretted it

Hehe. I once tested the demo from MPowersynth and did not like it. Now that I somehow tested it a bit more and it was on sale, I bought it. Now I see that this synth is a hell of a synth. I like to use it mainly now. In my very past I liked Absynth very much, btw. Today unfortunately I do not like to use NI stuff that much. I only stick to Kontakt because of some libs and GuitarRig for guitar (maybe some cool MXXX amp-simulation presets will be able to replace it in the future, hehe). NI plugins seem to load very slow recently ... but maybe I have some issues on my system, who knows. In the end I like to have tools which load fast and do not disturb the workflow. But regarding quality NI is good as well, no question!

Nicolaibob wrote: My only concern is, that sometimes i think MeldaProduction is a one-man-army - But then again. NI seemes notorisly to abandon instruments and plugins. And lately (in my subjectiveness) NI seems to be expanding to lots of other products, resulting in a lower new-product-rate / update-rate for the KOMPLETE series.

Whatever MP is, I am really looking forward to its future and future products. I also try to recommend MP to everyone I think who could use such tools.

Regarding NI: very interesting words, since I also think that there is something strange going on. There was no new Absynth version for years, am I right?

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:23 am

Nicolaibob wrote:+1 in NI KOMPLETE and MTOTALBUNDLE is a great match supplementing each other well.

I really didn't need mdrummer and mpowersynth, but knowing the quality of Meldaproduction product, i bought them anyway - And haven't regretted it

I primarily use melda when i want clean surgical digital quality dsp sound - I use NI when i want something else.

But there are also areas where Melda doesn't excel yet...

In my tool box i also have:
Jamorigin's MIDI-Guitar (Guitar / BAS to MIDI). This plugin has only one slot for effects, and this makes the MXXX even more appreciated.
AudioFront DSPTrigger (Drums to MIDI)
IK Multimedia Accoustic Room Control 2
Stillwell Audio Schwa Spectro

Reaper - My favorite DAW.

In my wishlist (everything is so darn expensive) for live-recording material are:
Accusonus Drumatom (MDrumLeveler goes some of the way, but is event based - where DrumAtom seemes to be somewhat algorithmic in terms of relative mic-positioning)
Zynaptiq UNMIX::DRUMS (When it gets released - I love the fact that it uses the science of probability)

BTW - I have never had an issue with the melda's layout, though it isn't a one-knob-plugin-that-does-it-all-in-a-twist.

My only concern is, that sometimes i think MeldaProduction is a one-man-army - But then again. NI seemes notorisly to abandon instruments and plugins. And lately (in my subjectiveness) NI seems to be expanding to lots of other products, resulting in a lower new-product-rate / update-rate for the KOMPLETE series.

Best Regards,
Nicolai Bob

Thank you!

About the ideas - drums to MIDI was originally on the table, but now I don't know - every reasonable host has this feature integrated, so it makes it a little pointless. But we'll see...

After all the engine from MDrumLeveler could be a good basis...
ARC2 - yes, I plan something much better than that

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Spectro - not really interesting, sorry. But modular spectral effects is on the table

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Drumatom - well, that's not really planned to be honest, doesn't seem to interesting to me ...
Zynatptiq stuff - well, people seem to like these, but every time I checked any of their creations I was like "what? really? that's all?...", so not very interesting. Also all their superexpensive tools seem to be pretty much the same, some kind of spectral processors based on transient/dynamic processing.

Nicolaibob · Post by **Nicolaibob** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:50 am

MeldaProduction wrote: About the ideas - drums to MIDI was originally on the table, but now I don't know - every reasonable host has this feature integrated, so it makes it a little pointless. But we'll see... After all the engine from MDrumLeveler could be a good basis...
ARC2 - yes, I plan something much better than that .

Wait... ARC2 in the world of Melda ... would be a MARC3

Looking forward to it.

As far as audio to midi - then some of your plugins are almost there...
i.e. If just MDrumLevelser, could output midi notes for each event, together with volume. Combined with MDrummer, and multiple inputs to MDrummer, one could use this as a "DrumBrain" beefing up dull acoustic drums.

Same with MAnalyser - Could be nice if it to, could output Midi. It already shows which note a frequency peak corresponds to, if one holds the mousepointer over the peak (nice feature btw, showing the note). I mean - if MAnalyser could output midi-notes corresponding to volume and sustain for the "highest" (or 2-3 highest) peak(s) in an audio stream.

And i still thinks it's very interesting with someone bringing the science of probability into application-specific soundmanipulation. I could imagine that this somehow could changes the future for audio restoration tools.

Nicolai

Nicolaibob · Post by **Nicolaibob** » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:05 pm

Tagirijus wrote: Regarding NI: very interesting words, since I also think that there is something strange going on. There was no new Absynth version for years, am I right?

I think that is symptomatic for all NI products, having a loooong time between versions-jumps. It seems more and more, like NI only have few programmers onboard in company staff, resulting in no revolutionary changes in there Synths and VST(i) platforms like GuitarRig, Reaktor and Kontakt. Most new material in the KOMPLETE ranges, comes from 3rd party sounddesigners. (One could think for them selves, that NI in fact doesn't have any fulltime programmers - only being a couple of "suits" being good at marketing by bundling high quality 3rd party stuff in there KOMPLETE range - don't know if that is true though)

I am very impressed with MeldaProductions high release rate. (Extreme high rate compared to many others like NI). That being said, I am impressed with the Quality of both NI and Melda.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:08 am

Well, the problem is MDrumLeveler->MDrummer connection really... it's far from that simple. It would probably be MDrumReplacer and it would really host a module from MDrummer (e.g. MSampler), but you might guess that it's not exactly straightforward. Considering how easy this is with modern hosts, it makes the classic drum replacers kind of obsolete... But actually on the new album I used a different approach I haven't seen anywhere

, it will probably be MDrumEnhancer

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MAnalyzer MIDI out - that would probably make no sense really. Especially since the peaks are changing a lot and usually don't correspond to the pitches, but more like harmonics.

And thank you!

Grizzellda · Post by **Grizzellda** » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:47 pm

MeldaProduction wrote:Thank you!
And yes, it's about skills and tools that are versatile enough... analog will die eventually, but I'm quite glad the 99% of the market is focusing on such dead area and leaving the rest to us

Vojtech! Say it isn't so !!!

Hey man, I really respect your futuristic approach, but concerning analogue emulations ... You can't say that! You are a smart guy, Mr. Melda, and maybe you should consider that the general consensus of music producers (and listeners, for that matter) seem to feel that analogue emulations are here to stay! The warmth, the glory... Oh dear Vojtech, the f**k'n glory!!!

So just take that!

MeldaProduction

KVR Audio

Are you using only your own stuff?