The soundware forum is full of sample libraires, that should belong to the *sampler* forum. The main instrument forum is full of sampler and sampled instruments, daw related questions, *guess the synth* topics. Btw, some *guess the synth* topics will be moved in the Soundware forum, with a certain guarantee of barely zero views, while some will quietly remain in the main forum. Different treats for different people, or more simply random treat of random visits ? (Or was the soundware forum not such a good idea ?)
Besides this, reported threads will sometimes get an answer, sometimes with a 3 months delay. Sometimes never ( especially those 2 last years ) Reviews are sometimes made by invisible people who have zero posts. etc etc.
We have not seen Meffy for a lot of time, and he has not been replaced. Other mods, who make this pro bono, have probably a real life as well. Before anyone wonders, the question is not the good will, or quality of the current moderation. It's about quantity, presence, efficiency, results.
Kvr has a lot of advertising going on. And moderation can probably be seen as a service to all forum readers.
So what are your thoughts ? Should Kvr intensify their effort on moderation, including offering professional moderation ( even a part time job with a mod visiting dayly the forum might be enough) ? Or at least choosing more pro bono moderators ? Do you even care ? Is it Ok like it is for you ? ( Mods welcomed if they wanna add any comments ) LtZ.
Could KVR benefit of a more efficient Moderation ? (Poll)
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Yes, definitely. Not talking about quality here either, but when i see how long it takes for reported posts or users to get sorted out, it makes me think KVR is understaffed.
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- KVRian
- 1100 posts since 9 Jan, 2015 from NY, NY
Yes, it certainly could, although it would be nice if the mods had strong backing from the site owners and direction on a consistent approach.
Too many people have been treated like shit and walked away from here while the mods are nowhere in sight; and some people seem to be able to operate with impunity and take the lack of action as encouragement to do worse.
HPC should be thrown in the trash. It's almost impossible to moderate that and it's the cause of the majority of problems here. It really brings out the worst side of people (who are usually allowed to stay and carry on their cyber bullying across all forums on the site).
This place has a bad reputation on other sites and with good reason.
Having said that, I know the mods have a difficult job to do, so I don't blame individuals for the lack of moderation. If anything, I wonder why they continue to do such a thankless task with so little support.
Too many people have been treated like shit and walked away from here while the mods are nowhere in sight; and some people seem to be able to operate with impunity and take the lack of action as encouragement to do worse.
HPC should be thrown in the trash. It's almost impossible to moderate that and it's the cause of the majority of problems here. It really brings out the worst side of people (who are usually allowed to stay and carry on their cyber bullying across all forums on the site).
This place has a bad reputation on other sites and with good reason.
Having said that, I know the mods have a difficult job to do, so I don't blame individuals for the lack of moderation. If anything, I wonder why they continue to do such a thankless task with so little support.
Sweet child in time...
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I find Gearslutz has a much more rude exposure for instance. HPC i have turned off, political discussions on the net always go out the same way. I agree that it probably should be removed. Political discussions in general. After all this is a site about music tech, not about politics.Deep Purple wrote:Yes, it certainly could, although it would be nice if the mods had strong backing from the site owners and direction on a consistent approach.
Too many people have been treated like shit and walked away from here while the mods are nowhere in sight; and some people seem to be able to operate with impunity and take the lack of action as encouragement to do worse.
HPC should be thrown in the trash. It's almost impossible to moderate that and it's the cause of the majority of problems here. It really brings out the worst side of people (who are usually allowed to stay and carry on their cyber bullying across all forums on the site).
This place has a bad reputation on other sites and with good reason.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35414 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
And no matter which forum a thread winds up in, the same people will use the thread to pimp the products they're associated with. That could be dealt with more 'efficiently', too. Not sure who decides what should be focussed on and made more efficient.Lotuzia wrote:The soundware forum is full of sample libraires, that should belong to the *sampler* forum. The main instrument forum is full of sampler and sampled instruments, daw related questions, *guess the synth* topics. Btw, some *guess the synth* topics will be moved in the Soundware forum, with a certain guarantee of barely zero views, while some will quietly remain in the main forum. Different treats for different people, or more simply random treat of random visits ? (Or was the soundware forum not such a good idea ?)
In other words, personally, im not that convinced that mere organisation of threads is all that important to get worried about. I mean, I get that a few people think its highly important that you dont discuss a sampler in the instruments forum, but really? is it that fecking important compared to actual genuine crap that our volunteer moderators could be spending their time on?
Not in my book.
But clearly you want it focussed in the direction that suits you. Havent you objected to the notion of it focussing on other things, though?Kvr has a lot of advertising going on. And moderation can probably be seen as a service to all forum readers.
Sure; you go ahead and pay for it, and Im sure Ben et al will be happy to engage someone.So what are your thoughts ? Should Kvr intensify their effort on moderation, including offering professional moderation ( even a part time job with a mod visiting dayly the forum might be enough) ?
Throw a few bucks in for something clearly less important like servers which dont 'this forum is temporarily unavailable' ten times a day, as well, while you're at it, willya.
ooooh, pick me, pick me.Or at least choosing more pro bono moderators ?
I certainly dont care about obsessing over whether or not a post is in the 'right' forum.Do you even care ? Is it Ok like it is for you ?
Set Theory claim:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35414 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Yes, they really shouldnt be people with their own sense of judgement, they need to be controlled and told how to behave.dermichl wrote:a clear and consistant approach/set of rules is needed. some mods allow for more violations than others...
Set Theory claim:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
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- KVRAF
- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Why so negative? Lotuzia clearly asked for opinions, and from what i've gathered the problem is not HOW things are moderated, but the lack of moderation due to lack of manpower. I know other forums who have 2 moderators per forum section. KVR has like, what, 3 or 4 in total? the only 2 i see frequently around here are bluedad and DH Miltz. That's a tad slim for such a big forum.
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35414 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
FWIW, HPC is the trash. It was set up as the place where all the crap gets put out of the way. Trust me, even the worst of HPC is nothing like some of the stuff that folk brought to the 'normal' forums at some points.Deep Purple wrote:HPC should be thrown in the trash.
Set Theory claim:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35414 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
and any you dont like are 'negative'. figures.chk071 wrote:Why so negative? Lotuzia clearly asked for opinions
Set Theory claim:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
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- KVRAF
- 16977 posts since 23 Jun, 2010 from north of London ON
If people want to see poor, inconsistent moderating they might want to check out the commentaries under articles in their local papers...whyterabbyt wrote:FWIW, HPC is the trash. It was set up as the place where all the crap gets put out of the way. Trust me, even the worst of HPC is nothing like some of the stuff that folk brought to the 'normal' forums at some points.Deep Purple wrote:HPC should be thrown in the trash.
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing
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- KVRian
- 1478 posts since 14 Jul, 2013 from Sweden
Psss....I'll tell you a secret.
The moderators have two main objectives. The second is to keep obvous spamers and people of that sort out of the forum. The first is to make sure that KVR's partners don't get to much criticism. After all KVR is an advertising platform.
And so posting in wrong forums et cetera is of little interest as long as it doesn't harm or came to some kind of disadvantage to the partners.
The moderators have two main objectives. The second is to keep obvous spamers and people of that sort out of the forum. The first is to make sure that KVR's partners don't get to much criticism. After all KVR is an advertising platform.
And so posting in wrong forums et cetera is of little interest as long as it doesn't harm or came to some kind of disadvantage to the partners.
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- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
Don't worry too much about it, your posts are always in the wrong place anyhow.whyterabbyt wrote:I certainly dont care about obsessing over whether or not a post is in the 'right' forum.