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sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:14 am

Hello

On the MUltramaximizer user manual, i have read this :

Even harmonics
Even harmonics determines amount of even harmonics added to the signal in addition to the main saturation. Amount of the harmonics is dependent on the saturation signal, unlike the full harmonic control in harmonics panel, which is completely independent on actual saturation processing.

I tried to figure out what is this "harmonics panel", if it is not the "saturator" panel ?
I am a little bit confused, could you clarify this a bit, please ?

Also, could you elaborate a little bit more about the various saturation modes ?
Which is aimed at what, for instance (if i don't have the time to "use my ears" each time for each one) ?
Is there for instance one mode optimized for transient response, an other one which would be better for bass range, etc ? When should we use "clip2", for instance ?

Thank you in advance !

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:50 am

Good question I would like to learn more about the saturation modes too.
As for even and odd harmonics:
Even harmonics sound warm like a tube and sound good on lower frequencies.
Odd harmonics sound bright like transistor/tape and sounds better on higher frequencies.
Generally speaking of course.

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:22 am

jmg8 wrote:As for even and odd harmonics:
Even harmonics sound warm like a tube and sound good on lower frequencies.
Odd harmonics sound bright like transistor/tape and sounds better on higher frequencies.
Generally speaking of course.

Yes, I know that. Thank you anyway for the reminder.
My question was not about it, but about the manual stating that MUltraMaximizer features an "harmonic panel" with "full harmonic control", which is "completely independent of the saturation panel".
Maybe there is some error in the manual (whith a portion of it "borrowed" from a bigger and more fully featured plugin), or i am missing something obvious and there is a harmonic panel which i have never found

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:34 am

I think that is a mistake in the manual. I know the harmonics section you talk about. It is in MSaturator. I guess the information has been copied accross from the other manual.

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:54 am

Thank you for the info (so i wasn't blind : this additional "harmonic panel" is not there).

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:14 am

YEah, that thing is probably borrowed from MLimiter & MMultiBandSaturator. Anyway I'm not really sure what to tell you about that. Just grab MOscillator -> plugin -> MAnalyzer and see the harmonics

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sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:20 am

Yes, that is what i am going to do.
But are each mode "just random modes", or were they designed with specific goals in mind (like : "this algorithm will work fine on bass heavy material" or "mode 3 will work best with fast transients", or "mode 6 is more transparent, mode 1 is more heavy", etc).
I can do it by myself, but i think it is something interesting to know from the developer's perspective, and useful in the manual.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:22 am

I think it cannot be quantified like that. The science doesn't look at "bass" and stuff, it pretty much treats all frequencies equally, so you just need to choose the right mode for each material. Or just leave it default if you don't hear a relevant difference

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jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:41 am

Just out of interest. Why is MUltraMaximizer not in MXXX?

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:15 pm

Becuase it is technically a multiband processor. You can build something like that in MXXX directly. Plus technical reasons of course

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jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:20 pm

Ok. I want to build it inside of MXXX but I don't know how many bands you used or any other settings. But I'm guessing this is another company secret right? Maybe you could put an active preset in MXXX for us? Pretty please.

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:53 pm

Plus MStereoProcessor is multiband and that is in MXXX

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:00 pm

Ok, we shoudl take it as "different flavours", it is not incremental (like "mode 4 has stronger harmonics than mode1 which is more subtle") ?

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:05 pm

sinkmusic wrote:Ok, we shoudl take it as "different flavours", it is not incremental (like "mode 4 has stronger harmonics than mode1 which is more subtle") ?

Yes!

sinkmusic: It may not be that simple to be honest. And MStereoProcessor is an exception, you can see it's not the classic Melda multiband (MUltraMaximizer is, it just doesn't have the editor visible).

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:20 pm

MeldaProduction wrote:Just grab MOscillator -> plugin -> MAnalyzer and see the harmonics .

Hi
This is what i did, and i was rather suprised to see such a bump in the 20-40Hz range

It happens with every modes.
Is it an expected beahaviour ? I never noticed this with any other saturator/"color" limiter/clipper until now ?

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