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DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:08 pm

I've just been exploring MAGC.

I can see that the Output level will be Input +/- Range (if the Gains are both 0).

When I tried with with a high-level sidechain the Output increased as expected and the Gain meter showed the correct level and numeric value.

But when I tried with with a low-level sidechain the Output decreased as expected and the Gain meter showed the correct level. However its numeric value would not go below -6.02dB. In the second screenshot below it should be -12dB, shouldn't it?

(I reserve the right to have missed something

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MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:53 pm

Hmmm, that's odd indeed! I'll check!

DarkStar · Post by **DarkStar** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:14 am

It would be handy to have the In / Side / Out / G meters (and time-graphs) in the MXXX/AGC module. Is that possible?

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:02 pm

Sorry that's a no, complicated story. It would only waste resources anyway.

pumafred · Post by **pumafred** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:35 pm

I am embarrassed to ask, but I will ask: what is this plugin for and how is it used?

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:55 pm

pumafred wrote:I am embarrassed to ask, but I will ask: what is this plugin for and how is it used?

If you apply effects to your sound, in most cases it changes the volume. Louder sounds better and often tricks us into thinking the changes we have made are positive. This plugin is the same feature as the auto gain compensation in all melda plugins, although now, with this new plugin, you can use it with 3rd party VSTs.

So basically it just keeps the output loudness the same as whatever you feed into it's sidechain.

pumafred · Post by **pumafred** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:02 pm

Thank you jmg8. I suspected, and hoped, this would be the function of the plugin.

However, I am not clear how to set it up in the signal chain. I would have suspected there would have to be one instance before and one after the plugin, but it seems it is not so in this case.

One more bit of help, please? Thanks!

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:23 pm

Well it gets tricky now.
It depends on your host/daw. You need to set up a sidechain/send from before the FX chain and feed it into the sidechain input of MAGC (which sits at the end of the FX chain)

Which DAW do you use?

pumafred · Post by **pumafred** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:42 pm

Cubase 8.5 on Windows 10. I wonder how I would set up a send BEFORE the FX chain. I will investigate, but if you have a hint, I´ll be very grateful.

steve2KVR · Post by **steve2KVR** » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:56 pm

...and, ah, here's another one for ya...I have two acoustic guitars set left and right, not exactly dbl tracking, but playing very similar parts, in rhythmic complement...sooooo...I put an instance of MACG at the end of the fx chain on each and fed the output of each into the sidechain input of the other....ahhhhhh...balance,fiddle withe the time constants and filtering....sweet..../s~

pumafred · Post by **pumafred** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:17 pm

Bump.
Is there a way I can set up MAGC usefully in Cubase?

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:25 pm

pumafred wrote:Bump.
Is there a way I can set up MAGC usefully in Cubase?

Vojtech uses Cubase hopefully he will explain......?

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:53 am

Certainly :
Open MAGC as VST3 (Cubase doesn't support sidechains for VST2), enable the sidechain (Cubase's title above the plugin editor), create a send in the mixer to actually send some signal to the sidechain. Done

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pumafred · Post by **pumafred** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:02 pm

But the Send comes after the effect plugins. How do I set it up to "auto gain" after a third party VST?

There is something I am still missing here, but we are getting closer!

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:21 pm

Can you configure the send as "pre" as opposed to "post"?

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