I used to play this figure on my old Farfisa, but never got around to working out the timing properly, until about a week ago, when I dragged this 10year old riff into C21st...
So, who can get the Time Sig(s) of the central figure? It is complicated in execution, but has a simple denouement...
I can offer no prize, save for the respect and admiration of your fellow KVRer's! [unless someone fancies donating a prize.. at the mo it's just a bit of fun]
Buff Envelope
Several Synth1s, with mda epiano, 4Front GSyn and Loopazoid, with tobybear Mixbox and Classic Reverb all in Podium. Then TSledge and TLSMax.
Some of the melodic parts over the top follow more standard meters, just to put you off. And there IS a bar of 4/4 where the epiano plays a figure on it's own. Also each of the pauses is 4/4 (it just ended up sounding better that way).
I'll post the result in about a week, if no-one's got it.
Enjoy!
DSP
Odd Time Signature Competition [Buff Envelope]
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- KVRAF
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
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- KVRist
- 253 posts since 25 May, 2001
Well ... basically it's all 4/4 with some different emphasis and accents though ... and it doesn't start on the 'one' ... and the breaks are set strangly ... and 
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Here is a short snippet of the theme with a simple 4/4 beat:
NotThatOdd
... Here is a short snippet of the theme with a simple 4/4 beat:
NotThatOdd
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
..not so fast!
Basically there, but..
Where are the accents then?
DSP
Basically there, but..
Where are the accents then?
DSP
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- KVRist
- 253 posts since 25 May, 2001
Hehe ... i won't count all these odd starting points of the other instruments during the intro ... pretty arbitrary just to confuse the poor listener.duncanparsons wrote:..not so fast!
Basically there, but..
Where are the accents then?
DSP
When the drums come in it all makes more sense imo.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
fair enough.
I maintain that 4/4 is still slightly inaccurate, since the overall length of the figure transcends that (to be pretentious). Maybe I just listened to too much Gentle Giant and Bruford during adolescence!
I'll post a pic soon.
DSP
I maintain that 4/4 is still slightly inaccurate, since the overall length of the figure transcends that (to be pretentious). Maybe I just listened to too much Gentle Giant and Bruford during adolescence!
I'll post a pic soon.
DSP
(i realized that i couldn't continously count 4/4, but finally you didn't ask for the song arrangement but for the measure of the main theme 
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- KVRist
- 109 posts since 19 May, 2002 from Boston
If not 4/4, it must be 8/8?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
OK, it's two bars of 11/16 followed by one of 10/16..
that makes 32/16 or 8/4. 4/4 with funny accents doesn't tell the whole story, but 8/4 does.
Makes it rather pre-renaissance in those terms, not much use for full breves these days, but I got them in the bass synth.
Well done all!
DSP
that makes 32/16 or 8/4. 4/4 with funny accents doesn't tell the whole story, but 8/4 does.
Makes it rather pre-renaissance in those terms, not much use for full breves these days, but I got them in the bass synth.
Well done all!
DSP
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- KVRist
- 116 posts since 11 Jun, 2004 from France
Hi
may i suggest 6/8 and 11/16 ?
may i suggest 6/8 and 11/16 ?
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- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 8 Apr, 2004
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
@sleepless:
You certainly may...
however: 6/8=12/16
12/16 + 11/16 = 33/16, which is 1/16 too many, but would be pretty cool. maybe oneday I'll write that, but I know that Simon Phillips has already done it!
@Glooper:
Yip - time does seem to rather fly these days!
DSP
You certainly may...
however: 6/8=12/16
12/16 + 11/16 = 33/16, which is 1/16 too many, but would be pretty cool. maybe oneday I'll write that, but I know that Simon Phillips has already done it!
@Glooper:
Yip - time does seem to rather fly these days!
DSP
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- KVRist
- 116 posts since 11 Jun, 2004 from France
Hi Duncan
just to tell that it seems that messages from France are slower, because I've posted my response before yours...
appearing after you, I don't want you to think that I'm reappraising your time signature
just to tell that it seems that messages from France are slower, because I've posted my response before yours...
appearing after you, I don't want you to think that I'm reappraising your time signature
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
I figured something like that had happened! It was so close. I mean 1/16 at 120 bpm is 0.125s which is easy to trip over!
ta for listening
DSP
ta for listening
DSP
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- KVRAF
- 3066 posts since 31 May, 2002 from My chair
Over before I had a chance to listen to it, but I still must say it's quite a fine tune!
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