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jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:21 pm

Hi Vojtech. Are you planning on making MTurboEQ? It would be great to have some of the sounds of the old EQs like Pultec and Massive Passive!

BTW MTurboComp is amazing, can't stop using it on everything!

ZentralmassivSound · Post by **ZentralmassivSound** » Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:29 pm

Awesome idea!!

+1 using MTurboComp on everything ^^

Once there is MTurboEQ, I can do a whole mix with just two plugins

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:22 am

+1, but I remember an old discussion with Vojtech against something like this, but maybe he changed his opinion.

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:09 am

I think this should answer it

viewtopic.php?f=138&t=397334

After this discussion I really wondered about the release of mturbocomp, but so happy with it.

spencerlee · Post by **spencerlee** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:28 am

You can recreate any EQ you like by matching the Q.
Its is a bit fiddley.
Set up pink noise before the eq plugin you want to copy.
Set say 1k at +12db
Setup a analyzer plugin and capture the result.
Switch off the EQ plugin and add your EQ plugin.
Then setup 1k at +12db and match the curve with the Q.
Then save the preset. You may have to adjust the frequency and the level to match.
Add as much saturation as you need to get analog.
I have done it with API, Pultec, Neve and lots of fixed EQs.
I have done the API changing the Q for each band at the different levels just as the Original. Preset for Pultic Mid Band EQ using MDynamicEq

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Svama · Post by **Svama** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:38 am

But therefore you need all these eqs and it's really fiddly and time consuming for all frequencies of an eq.
Many eqs have proportional Q and that's not that easy to match.

spencerlee · Post by **spencerlee** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:49 am

Yes it is.
Use the same technique and setup your multiparameters in bank mode and insert all the right Q curves and gain.
Yes it takes time but took me about 3 hours to do the API 550.
And the answer is no before you ask.
Spencer

spencerlee · Post by **spencerlee** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:14 am

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Sorry forgot screenshot for Pultec Mid Band EQ

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 2:18 pm

Thank you folks!

Well, we could theoretically do that. It's actually far easier than simulating compressors, that's why I didn't want to do it. It's more like specialized settings for say MAutoDynamicEq (not even dynamic). So the question is whether it is needed. I quite despise the companies trying to sell you neverending EQ sims, that are just repeats of the same thing all over again...just to take money from you... it's just wrong...

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:23 pm

+1 for doin it.

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:56 pm

Mplease

ZentralmassivSound · Post by **ZentralmassivSound** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:07 pm

I don't know much about it, but if you read threads about EQs it seems to be all about "colouring" through specific distortion and phase shift behavior. And I guess that it's not static but dynamic, dependent on frequency and level? So it might not be possible just using MAutoDynamicEQ?

jmg8 · Post by **jmg8** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:15 pm

ZentralmassivSound wrote:I don't know much about it, but if you read threads about EQs it seems to be all about "colouring" through specific distortion and phase shift behavior. And I guess that it's not static but dynamic, dependent on frequency and level? So it might not be possible just using MAutoDynamicEQ?

I thought it was mostly to do with curves and band interactivity. This is from the DMGaudio EQuilibruim manual:

1.1 About EQuilibrium
Besides adjusting gain, EQ is the most commonly used process in any audio workﬂow. Yet it’s been years since there was a radical change in how EQs are designed. I’ve been a student of EQ design my entire career - I was even designing EQs before I started at Focusrite! I wanted to make a bold statement about what the future should look like - about reclaiming all that was good about the past, and simply adding more. The EQuilibrium design process started with thinking about what the different facets of an EQ are. We decided that the different facets are these: Curves, Audio ﬁdelity, Interface, Routing. So we looked at each facet individually, and took them deeper. The Curves are fascinating - I’ve spent years poring over schematics, collecting transfer functions to ﬁnd out what it is that makes certain EQs so special. Gain-Q interactivity is one, Gain-frequency interactivity another. Or just interesting settings that bring some vibe. Understanding what curves and interactions have stayed with us over the decades tells us a lot about what we use EQs to achieve. Parallel and series conﬁgurations are fascinating too.

ZentralmassivSound · Post by **ZentralmassivSound** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:26 pm

Ah, nice info! So this would indeed be possible just using multi parameters. Cool stuff!

spencerlee · Post by **spencerlee** » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:50 pm

I have built a preset for an EQ that all frequencies are semitone based on A440.
It is 6 band and I am currently designing presets for it.
It is astounding how different it sounds. It is Parallel EQ with input and output balanced 50%.
It is all built with Multiparameters.
I think an MTurboEQ is a total waste of Vojtechs time.