Toneboosters Voice pitching

[Svama]

Why does the voice pitcher algorithm sound so much better than every plugin from Melda, what can do this? No artifacts, super clean?!

[frizzbee]

because toneboosters took their time developing it. meldas policy is to release every month a new plugin as well as code features and many bugfixes into the existing one in parallel. somewhere time must be saved and this is when creating/copying effects. the other reason could be not having the right knowledge at that time. nothing bad but his ego is too strong to confirm this

for example take the reverb. it sounds like an open source reverb with code published on musicdsp. why? because creating a good sounding algorithmic reverb takes time. i'm sure he could do so but there's too much going on with feature requests, bugfixing and the mixing revolution. and you guys already keep him away from some plugins

[vectorwarrior]

I haven't used the Tonebosters pitch shift in a while, didn't think it was better than Reaper's, which is still my favorite given the quality and number of options. I agree that the Melda pitch shifts aren't the best out there and I've wished they were better in the past... but you cant have it all.

I do like the quality of MTransformer at higher spectral buffer settings, but of course you loose all the transient information as the audio gets smeared over time. If there was a way to somehow get the 'sharpness' of the lower settings with the frequency accuracy of the higher settings, i think MTransformer would be one of the best out there... but i think it's an inherent issue with spectral effects that you always have to pick between frequency accuracy or time accuracy. If Melda can crack that though, i think they'd be on to a real winner. Maybe just more spectral settings would help the user find the balance.

Personally, i dont have a problem with melda EQ's in the slightest though. I'm really happy with them, so you're on your own there

As for the reverb, apparently MTurboReverb is coming soon. The older MReverb is pretty dated now, he just hasn't worked on it for a long time. I have faith that the new one will sound great. Also, the melda convolutional reverb is pretty awesome so I find I need algorthmic less and less as I collect awesome IR's.

[Svama]

Give tb pitch another try, fantastic, so smooth, natural. Comparison with Reaper is a bad joke, believe me.

[pekbro]

Well on one side you have a renowned scientist who has focused on and researched
the science of DSP for years. On the other, you have a guy who admittedly only read about
this stuff in a book.

While both are pretty amazing accomplishments, one side is clearly at a definite disadvantage
here, imo anyway.

I can paint very well, but I'll never be able to paint as well as my friends who have
dedicated their lives and focus to the study and pursuit of art. At least not without
doing the same. Aside from the occasional genius, thats generally how it goes.

-Cheers

[Chandlerhimself]

TB uses a different algorhythm I imagine, so if it sounds better I'm sure that's why. I haven't tried it so I don't know. I don't have any problems with Melda's pitch shifter, but I don't use them often, so maybe others are more demanding.

TB's evoke isn't a normal EQ. It has some different filters and it uses a mix of minimum phase and linear phase I believe. If you want an EQ that sound smoother and less harsh use a Linear phase EQ. I haven't noticed harshness with Melda's EQ, but again I don't do huge high end boosts often and if I do I'll use linear phase.

There is a new reverb being developed now, so I'll wait until it is released before complaining.

[MeldaProduction]

Svama, really? They have written it even on the webpage .
It is something specially designed for vocals, so mainly monophonic audio. I checked it on various sources and it really does a good job on vocals and monophonic stuff, but on polyphonic & rhythmical audio it is horrible, gritty, noisy, distorting. I thought that it's PSOLA (algo), which does these artifacts, but it still introduces latency (which it shouldn't), so it's hard to say.

Anyways I never said our pitch shifting is "da best" , because it's not. It sounds good on some materials, not good on others. All algos have this problem. It's like a big part of the science, still not resolved . Reaper is licencing Elastique as far as I know, which is imho a very good option, many hosts use that. It oftensounds slightly better than our pitch shifting sadly, hard to say, it has been some time since I was checking it in detail.

[Svama]

Therefore the name voicepitcher. Sound phenomenal on voices.

[mccy]

I once looked for the best octaver & compared all plugins I had on radar. I ended very satisfied with meldas (and that was before mbassador) because of the many many setting possibilities and algos to. chose from. I got low latency with a really good sound. So you make me curious for tb. I only bought the essential pack there so far.

[mccy]

Just tested. As Octaver it is nice, but latency is at 2048. That's too much for me & as Octaver it is not that nicer than Melda. I'm not that much into up-pitch-shifting, so Melda rules for me.

[Soundplex]

Well on one side you have a renowned scientist who has focused on and researched
the science of DSP for years.

I didn't know that. But that explains why the toneboosters plugins are so good. Love the few I tested and own Easy to use with fantastic results. Just tested the voice pitcher and I think I'm going to get their whole bundle now.

[alexis1]

Well on one side you have a renowned scientist who has focused on and researched
the science of DSP for years.

I didn't know that. But that explains why the toneboosters plugins are so good. Love the few I tested and own Easy to use with fantastic results. Just tested the voice pitcher and I think I'm going to get their whole bundle now.

Svama, Soundplex, and others - anybody able to compare Tonebooster's VoicePitch with Cubase's VariAudio or SyncroArts' Revoice Pro?

[Svama]

There is an unlimited demo version, everybody has another perception of good and bad, what I can say is faster and easier to handle. I own revoice also, but to fiddly in my opinion.

[alexis1]

There is an unlimited demo version, everybody has another perception of good and bad, what I can say is faster and easier to handle. I own revoice also, but to fiddly in my opinion.

Surprised to read you'd rather not comment on the audio quality of the plug after reading the first line of your first post?

I'm a few weeks from doing voice pitching on my current project, and probably will trial it then. Was hoping to hear an opinion or two in the meantime .

[Svama]

As I said, sound quality is great and I don't use variaudio, changed from Cubase to Reaper. Speed and quality for voices is top. I don't know what you like to do and use it for, maybe this can help for a better tip?!