After modelling the wonderful satin, what about a vinyl distortion plugin u-he?
what about a u-he vinyl distortion?
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midi_transmission midi_transmission https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=298730
- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 13 Feb, 2013
Vinyl distortion has such an amazing effect on drums especially for house and techno. It's not only distorting, but is smears the transients phase (at least it sounds so to me) that makes the sound more 3d and interesting with pleasing mild resonances that almost impossible to recreate with the usual plug-in.
After modelling the wonderful satin, what about a vinyl distortion plugin u-he?
After modelling the wonderful satin, what about a vinyl distortion plugin u-he?
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- KVRAF
- 3470 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
Do you mean the phase distortion on (for instance) waves abbey road vinyl?midi_transmission wrote:Vinyl distortion has such an amazing effect on drums especially for house and techno. It's not only distorting, but is smears the transients phase (at least it sounds so to me) that makes the sound more 3d and interesting with pleasing mild resonances that almost impossible to recreate with the usual plug-in.
After modelling the wonderful satin, what about a vinyl distortion plugin u-he?
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midi_transmission midi_transmission https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=298730
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1045 posts since 13 Feb, 2013
Not sure what you mean exactly with phase distortion. 
What I mean is that instead of one sharp peak from a 909 hat you get a bit a noisier, less unpleasant sharp sound that is at the same time for some strange reason more piercing, sibilant and smeared in a good way. It sounds also more wide and 3d. And you get a bit variation, because not every hit sounds exactly ) the same even when you used the same sample for a e.g. hihat (anti machine gun effect).
You can hear it when you compare some techno/house records on vinyl vs. their original digital version. I think that digital recording sounds way better for real acoustic sounds, but for house/techno this effect adds very much. It's a effect that vinyl has, especially with non-high-end equipment that can be very pleasing, it's not because vinyl is the better medium.
This is not just simple distortion afaik. At least I can't get near that effect with any of my plugins. I definitely don't mean any type of simple EQ or added crackling. or simple distortion
I never tried the waves abbey road vinyl plugin. But I guess something in that direction.
What I mean is that instead of one sharp peak from a 909 hat you get a bit a noisier, less unpleasant sharp sound that is at the same time for some strange reason more piercing, sibilant and smeared in a good way. It sounds also more wide and 3d. And you get a bit variation, because not every hit sounds exactly ) the same even when you used the same sample for a e.g. hihat (anti machine gun effect).
You can hear it when you compare some techno/house records on vinyl vs. their original digital version. I think that digital recording sounds way better for real acoustic sounds, but for house/techno this effect adds very much. It's a effect that vinyl has, especially with non-high-end equipment that can be very pleasing, it's not because vinyl is the better medium.
This is not just simple distortion afaik. At least I can't get near that effect with any of my plugins. I definitely don't mean any type of simple EQ or added crackling. or simple distortion
I never tried the waves abbey road vinyl plugin. But I guess something in that direction.
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- KVRAF
- 3470 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
Your description fits the phase distortion knob on the waves plugin. With satin, i would try the bump, gap width and pre-emphasis knobs to obtain a bit of the same feel. If you then push the signal hard into satin, you might get a somewhat "similar" result