Superior Drummer 3

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noiseboyuk
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Post Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:44 am

Thought this deserved a thread of its own. From someone who hated SD2, I'm chuffed to tiny pieces with SD3, really great. The sounds were always nice with SD2, but the software so atrocious I eventually abandoned it.

I did a little first impression overview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eusgjqr ... e=youtu.be
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9682 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:05 am

Great Video. I hadn't planned on upgrading my SD2 as I also don't use it much, but after watching that video I think I will! :tu:
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ilmai
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472 posts since 25 Aug, 2016 from Helsinki, Finland

Post Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:21 am

I bought SD3 on the release day, even though massive traffic to the Toontrack site made it difficult. :D It's not cheap, but I haven't regretted the purchase for a minute. I used to have EzDrummer for composing and Superior Drummer 2 for final sounds, but SD3 has now replaced both. The interface is impressive - looks good but isn't just eye candy - the presets are far better than any EZX or SDX I have, and I haven't even touched the advanced features yet. Highly recommended!

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zvenx
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11875 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:37 am

I not sure if I think it is my favourite thing ever :-)
However indeed for me, it is well designed, easy to use and sounds fantastic.
I don't think I have ever been excited about drum/dru like sounds except Stylus RMX or Maschine when they were first launched, and I have a lot of other Drum products.
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reecewolff
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Post Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:28 am

How are the cymbal/room sounds in SD3? I generally just replace the close mics anyway

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EvilDragon
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22866 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:01 am

@noiseboyuk - they do have enable bleed from all instruments! Click the hamburger button in "Bleed from instruments" pane, the option is there. Also, it's in "Bleed enabled" dropdown in the mixer, click on the down arrow button and the option is there.


Software is REALLY well thought-out this time around. I'm finding most of the stuff that I need, where I'd expect it to be. Kinda awesome.

Dewdman42
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1941 posts since 14 Mar, 2006

Post Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:07 am

How does it compare to addictive drums? I got SD2 a long time ago but ended up never using it. It sure is a pricey upgrade.
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EvilDragon
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22866 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:18 am

Better than AD in every regard.

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k-tronix
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149 posts since 13 Jan, 2004 from San Diego, CA

Post Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:20 am

I was really hoping for cymbal swell modeling (BFD3 has this feature) or at least a good set of such samples for each kit. Are such samples included in SD3?
It's the music that makes the science worthwhile.

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EvilDragon
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22866 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:22 am

There's no swell modeling but samples are top-notch.

Mashitih
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Post Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:36 am

In SD2 there was a cymbal swell feature called MHE.
I can't believe they have dumped it.

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EvilDragon
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22866 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:10 am

They didn't dump it. They renamed it, it's called Smoothing now.

noiseboyuk
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Post Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:27 am

EvilDragon wrote:@noiseboyuk - they do have enable bleed from all instruments! Click the hamburger button in "Bleed from instruments" pane, the option is there. Also, it's in "Bleed enabled" dropdown in the mixer, click on the down arrow button and the option is there.


Software is REALLY well thought-out this time around. I'm finding most of the stuff that I need, where I'd expect it to be. Kinda awesome.
Ah thank you Mr Evil - there's been 2 or 3 little things I didn't just figure out, but in the main I completely agree. Really intuitive, incredibly flexible.
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58 posts since 21 Sep, 2015

Post Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:21 pm

Just installed it. Sounds fantastic needless to say.

One thing I noticed is that it would have been nice if there had been all new presets for existing SDX libraries to harness the power of newly added analog modeled comps, EQs, tapes etc. But I may be too greedy:hihi:
They are made by Overloud and quite nice as well!

jancivil
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24094 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville

Post Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:14 pm

In SD2 there was a cymbal swell feature called MHE.
I can't believe they have dumped it.
EvilDragon wrote:They didn't dump it. They renamed it, it's called Smoothing now.
"BFD3's cymbal swell function offers several models of cymbal wash behaviour. It intelligently shapes cymbal articulations when played in frequent succession to emulate the buildup of energy when playing a real cymbal." - BFD3 FAQ pages.

And, so, I wouldn't think to model this behavior only to name it 'smoothing', it means a certain buildup and the behavior of the response of a cymbal within that buildup as it would tend to occur, as a whole. :shrug:

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