MeldaProduction

Boone777 · Post by **Boone777** » Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:06 pm

Anybody using Melda in Linux ?
Is it working well ?
Any plans for Melda going into Linux eventually ?

I'm not there yet but I'm not so pleased with Mac and Windows policies and the way they handle their business/OS. With Reaper going Linux and companies like U-HE making great softwares I plan to make a Linux test run on a new drive.

nosucherror · Post by **nosucherror** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:55 am

I've been using the REAPER Linux builds (still in development) with Melda plug-ins. You need to use WINE and then Airwave or I've been using LinVst:
https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst
I can't totally recommend it, it's fiddly to get running and as WINE and LinVst are regularly updated I've found things don't always work as they did previously. The main problem seems to be GUI compatibility. That being said, I've got most of the plugins running in Ubuntu Studio including MPowerSynth and MXXX. Also the standalone MDrummerLarge works fine.
I spoke to Vojtec about it a while ago and he said the market was too small to make it worthwhile, although I noticed there was some WINE optimisation in the v11 changelog...
Anyway, I would say that Melda in Linux is workable if you've got time to spare and don't mind messing about a bit. But, if you've got deadlines to meet, stick with Windows/OSX.
Hopefully one day we'll be able to ditch these corporate surveillance systems - I mean operating systems.

Boone777 · Post by **Boone777** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:18 am

There is alittle hope for me I guess. I own MXXX MPowersynth and Madeq. I would have trouble living without my favorite EQ. Interesting those Wine optimisations...the recording revolution will be on Linux !!

Spread the rumor! Force Melda to do it !

Is'nt there a market for the first 'real' and serious companies going on Linux ? Like if your one of the first there is only eyes for you.
And I wouldnt be surprised if eventually Linux gets a bigger share of the market but that's a vicious circle: The more software on Linux the more people change OS and buy software...

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:55 pm

I'm afrad that this really won't happen, at least not in forthcoming years. Linux still is a system for servers and IT people, who don't want to pay for anything

.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:27 pm

nosucherror · Post by **nosucherror** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:53 pm

Hah, I don't know about that Vojtech, I'm more inclined to purchase software if it's Linux compatible. In recent years I've bought Bitwig, Renoise, U-he Zebra and some Loomer stuff.
I do most of my work and music making in Windows 7 and I'll probably keep doing that until companies like Melda stop supporting it. I don't expect this to happen anytime soon. After that I'll fully move to Linux.
This has nothing to with audio I just don't trust mega corporations like Microsoft and Apple and would rather avoid them.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:20 pm

Don't worry I understand. But actually to be honest, trusting open source development is even worse. Linux is just too unreliable and so small part of the population is using it, that it just doesn't make sense to spend the brutal development time in that. As for the giants - Microsoft also supports just about any hardware, but they keep perfect backwards compatibility, so there shouldn't be a problem. If you are worried about Cortana or something, these things can always be disabled (and you can disconnect your computer from internet

) and trust me, sooner or later it will be on linux too. Most of these "big brother" things are actually on the websites (like facebook or kvr

), so... And as for Apple, well, they support only specific hardware, yet the HW compatibility isn't 100% and backwards compatibility is virtually none, that's Apple, everyone knows that, that's why I avoid it whenever I can. But as far as security is concerned, it's the same as MS. And btw. when it comes to brute force hacking, you'd be better off with any of these 2 than Linux. Nobody hacks linux right now, because there aren't many machines with that. But it's like with OSX, some time ago, Apple had like 3% of the market, so hackers didn't care. But now, they have like 15% or something, and guess what...

nosucherror · Post by **nosucherror** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:20 pm

Well, in terms of desktop operating systems Apple have about 3.5% of the market, Linux about 3%. In the audio world Apple is probably way up, I don't know.
https://www.netmarketshare.com/operatin ... pcustomd=0
That leaves Microsoft with close to 90% of the market. I think that is a very unhealthy monopoly. I'm not worried about hackers, I don't want to do business with a company that spies on its users. I agree Linux is a bit of a mess and I totally understand why Melda wouldn't want to develop for the platform.
On a positive note, I just installed MDrummer 7.02 on Ubutnu Studio under WINE and it's running fine.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:54 pm

Hehe I'm glad it is running fine there!
Apple really has just 3%? (not that I would be too surprised, but I thought that for some crazy reason they got quite popular) Anyways here's the thing - everyone spies on the users... Windows are the least of a problem... The worst is google and facebook, ugh... there's a very unhealthy monopoly, but well, we have to live with that and hope their intentions won't go too far...

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:01 pm

MeldaProduction wrote: Apple really has just 3%?

No. Either that's only Mac OS 10.12 (looks like it), or that statistic is total nonsense. Mac OS has a bigger market share (rather, like, 20%). And, don't ask for the market share for audio computers. It is much higher than that.

Here's a statistic from Statista: https://www.statista.com/statistics/218 ... windows-7/

I don't know why Netmarketshare brings up such a weird statistic. The market share of Mac OS in Germany is about 10-15 %, and, in America, it's 35 %. World wide, it's a bit less, of course, as, for example, China and India, which reflect a big market with lots of people, mostly use Windows.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:22 pm

It's probably rather complicated to actually come up with these numbers. Mostly you'd actually use website checking - the OS is mentioned in the HTTP protocol I think. But then you rely on computers connected to internet... Well, statistics is complex...
Cool numbers anyways!

Btw. according to my platform report it actually looks like 50:50 for windows and osx. People are still following the prehistoric rule that "apple is the only way to make music on"... It was true once though... A long time ago however.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:31 pm

Yeah, i think it is a combination of things. Software running on web servers, surveys, sales figures... those kind of things.

And, i'm sure you're right, for audio application, the ratio is an entirely different one. Dunno if it is really 50 %. I rather expect it to be around 30 to 35 %. Maybe it differs from company to company.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:13 am

Probably, but it must be really difficult to come up with reasonable numbers from that. For instance, sales will heavily depend on the nation, and different nations have different platforms. For instance, here in czech rep, only the "we are better than others" people use Macs

. But in Norway, almost everyone.

As for our stats, well, it compiles more about 20k paying customers plus those which use freebies, so I'd expect it to be like 100k, which I think is quite a good sample. But who knows. Also not everyone has the platform reporting enabled... so there's anotehr statistical problem

.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:18 am

MeldaProduction wrote:For instance, here in czech rep, only the "we are better than others" people use Macs .

Here in Germany too.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:48 pm

Hehe that's because we middle-european know what is good!