Tracktion Software

dotandtittle · Post by **dotandtittle** » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:20 am

I've been wanting to set up a higher sample rate on tradition, to create some VO Reels in higher quality. The trouble is that the selection for the sample rate (on set up) of 41000htz is the only one showing. Does anyone know why?

klangbastler · Post by **klangbastler** » Fri Nov 03, 2017 1:10 pm

it shows what your hardware is capable of.
if you don't see 48 khz, your audiocard does not provide it.

what are you using? what driver model? what os?

HansP · Post by **HansP** » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:19 pm

operating systems may have not only 1 but a number of different output streams or channels, that in the end deal with the configured hardware.
within the respective output stream, there are 1 or more options about detailed settings, which normally are sample rate, and bit depth.
if not sufficient, sometimes, installing some more powerful driver software might help. (e.g. topic ASIO)
or buying a professional external audio interface that also brings its own drivers.

HansP · Post by **HansP** » Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:21 pm

you may still render a mix in different sample rates, that are being selected for data output (export).

dotandtittle · Post by **dotandtittle** » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:52 pm

klangbastler wrote:it shows what your hardware is capable of.
if you don't see 48 khz, your audiocard does not provide it.

what are you using? what driver model? what os?

Aha! That could explain it... I'm using Intel i3 @1.8GHts with 8g RAM so it's not a huge machine. It's Win 10. Thanks. I thought that maybe T6 hadn't installed properly.
Cheers

klangbastler · Post by **klangbastler** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:29 am

no professional audio-interface? just the onboard soundchip?

dotandtittle · Post by **dotandtittle** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:37 am

klangbastler wrote:no professional audio-interface? just the onboard soundchip?

yep. Just the internal sound card

klangbastler · Post by **klangbastler** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:58 am

dotandtittle wrote:
klangbastler wrote:no professional audio-interface? just the onboard soundchip?
yep. Just the internal sound card

then i understand why you were speaking of noise removal in the other thread.
you won't get higher quality with setting it to 48khz (which should be possible also with the internal soundchip).
a decent audiointerface in the 100$/€ range (maybe a little less) could do that for you.
what kind of microphone are you using?

dotandtittle · Post by **dotandtittle** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:22 am

a Shure SM58 Dynamic. It has beautiful nuance to it. So, do these audio interfaces simply plug into the USB and act as the sound card, before the recordings gets onto the computers SSD? The only interfaces I'm using merely allow the XLR mic and mixer to connect to the computer. I thought that is what their jobs were.

terrynoakes · Post by **terrynoakes** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:38 am

Perhaps if you detail all the equipment you are using including interface. Someone on here may be able to help a bit more.(possibly)

dotandtittle · Post by **dotandtittle** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:39 am

terrynoakes wrote:Perhaps if you detail all the equipment you are using including interface. Someone on here may be able to help a bit more.(possibly)

OK, I will: shire SM58 mic, into a 4 channel professional mixer (guarda 12091eu) then into behringer uca202 usb interface and into my computer usb2 port. The RCA cables are also professional quality. Can you see any weaknesses here?
Thanks

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:43 am

dotandtittle wrote:
klangbastler wrote:no professional audio-interface? just the onboard soundchip?
yep. Just the internal sound card

Bit of a contradiction; you've now said you're using a Behringer UCA202, which is an external soundcard.

Its also capable of 48Khz recording.

I think you may need to tell us what your Tracktion settings are for audio.

terrynoakes · Post by **terrynoakes** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 12:45 pm

Hi, if you haven't already, try right click on speaker icon, and check the audio settings there.
I cant see any reason why you can't get a 48Hz sample rate.
You should if possible, be recording at 24bit also.
The photos are of my internet pc with only internal card.
As an aside, and to slammed or ignored. If you are only doing voice over, wouldn't something like the dbx 286s be a better option than the mixer, seems to be the favourd unit for pod cast and small broadcast stations. Will give you a bit more control on the way in.
Cheers

terrynoakes · Post by **terrynoakes** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:49 pm

Hello again,
Try asio4all if you haven't yet.
Once installed.
In waveform settings tab.
Audio device type : select Asio.
Device: Asio4all
Then on the sample rate drop down box you should be able to select 48Hz amongst others
I just installed this on my computer mentioned above and was able to get 48hz

Peter Widdicombe · Post by **Peter Widdicombe** » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:51 pm

I run an ancient Soundcraft mixer into a UCA222, which is essentially the same setup you have. What kind of noise do you encounter? Is it possible something somewhere along the chain is either too high or low along the audio chain?

You can compensate to get the right levels, but, for example, if the mixer has the microphone setting too high and the output to the UCA202 set low, then you may introduce what sounds like white noise into the mix; plus a little overdrive at the mixer level. Similarly, if the mike is too low on the mixer, you'll be introducing noise right off the bat.

By the way, which output do you feed into the 202? It should be a line-level output.

Tracktion Software

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48000htz sample rate not available