Here's something I've been trying to figure out...
How do I play more than one track at a time with my midi keyboard?
eg I have a vsti on track 1 and a vsti on track 2 and I want to be able to play them both, live, at the same time, with my MIDI keyboard - is there a way of routing stuff so that I can do that?
I can't have more than on vsti on one track - they cancel each other out and I get silence.
I can route them to the same output track but that doesn't solve my problem?
Is this unsolveable without using the racks? (I'm trying to avoid the lack of pdc in racks)
Any ideas, anyone?
cheers
Simon
Simon
How do I play more than one track at a time?
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- KVRist
- 144 posts since 10 Mar, 2004 from Brighton, England
...and so it goes (Kurt Vonnegut)
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- KVRist
- 274 posts since 11 Jun, 2004
download chainer
or console
or energy xt
or so on and so on
theres loadsa plugs to dowload to do this
most of em will even give you a little mixer and sends and stuff
i do this all the time so it definatly works
i personally use ext and chainer
but ext a lot more than chainer
you just need to find one with the specs you need
cheers
or console
or energy xt
or so on and so on
theres loadsa plugs to dowload to do this
most of em will even give you a little mixer and sends and stuff
i do this all the time so it definatly works
i personally use ext and chainer
but ext a lot more than chainer
you just need to find one with the specs you need
cheers
I aint famous enough to be handin out signatures
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- KVRian
- 1112 posts since 17 Jul, 2003 from Kauai, HI
I always thought the simplest way to do this would be to control drag copies of the midi-in icon to additional tracks. Maybe T2?
Tom
Tom
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
It's very simple indeed, but you have to use racks. Dunno why you don't want to...! 
Make a new rack. Call it "dummy rack" or whatever the heck else you want.
Inside that rack, connect the MIDI In to the MIDI Out. (the left yellow node to the right yellow node). I suppose you can attach the audio if you want, though you won't really need to.
Now, just put one instance of "dummy rack" in a track to which your MIDI device is pointed, and then any other track that contains a copy of "dummy rack" will also be receiving MIDI messages.
[edit: this works, but it may have some problems... I just noticed that muting the other tracks won't isolate the instrument in question... I'll post back when I've mucked around a bit]
[edit: yeah, it didn't work. My bad. I'll leave the post intact anyhow, for posterity.]
Follow-up, though--
What exactly do you need the functionality for? If it's for live use, the above method worked. If it's for recording multiple parts, well you can always just copy and paste the MIDI, since it'd be identical for all the multiple tracks anyhow. If it's to be able to HEAR all 3 at once, the above way works, but simply routing them together with rack filters in the conventional way would work better.
I guess if we know what the end goal is, I (and others) could come up with a solution that fits your needs. Also, why can't there be rack filters? They're made expressly for purposes such as this! It's their raison d'etre!
Greg
Make a new rack. Call it "dummy rack" or whatever the heck else you want.
Inside that rack, connect the MIDI In to the MIDI Out. (the left yellow node to the right yellow node). I suppose you can attach the audio if you want, though you won't really need to.
Now, just put one instance of "dummy rack" in a track to which your MIDI device is pointed, and then any other track that contains a copy of "dummy rack" will also be receiving MIDI messages.
[edit: this works, but it may have some problems... I just noticed that muting the other tracks won't isolate the instrument in question... I'll post back when I've mucked around a bit]
[edit: yeah, it didn't work. My bad. I'll leave the post intact anyhow, for posterity.]
Follow-up, though--
What exactly do you need the functionality for? If it's for live use, the above method worked. If it's for recording multiple parts, well you can always just copy and paste the MIDI, since it'd be identical for all the multiple tracks anyhow. If it's to be able to HEAR all 3 at once, the above way works, but simply routing them together with rack filters in the conventional way would work better.
I guess if we know what the end goal is, I (and others) could come up with a solution that fits your needs. Also, why can't there be rack filters? They're made expressly for purposes such as this! It's their raison d'etre!
Greg
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- KVRist
- 274 posts since 11 Jun, 2004
lunch money my man
if hes gonna use the racks
wouldnt it be better to do it by placing all the synths inside one rack
i only ask because ive been doing it this way
and im just wondering about the merits of both ways
i hadnt actually thought of doing it the way you said
but now im intrigued
do you have any thoughts on this one
cheers
if hes gonna use the racks
wouldnt it be better to do it by placing all the synths inside one rack
i only ask because ive been doing it this way
and im just wondering about the merits of both ways
i hadnt actually thought of doing it the way you said
but now im intrigued
do you have any thoughts on this one
cheers
I aint famous enough to be handin out signatures
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 144 posts since 10 Mar, 2004 from Brighton, England
Oh Jeez I just wrote a long reply then colsed the window without submittingit! 
So in brief:
thanks for all the feedback, really useful.
I will try out the dummy racks, thanks Lunch Money
I'll try out chainer and ext as a host when I get back from my hols (leaving Monday am)
I don't want to make complex racks cos of the pdc (plug in delay compnesation)issue with racks (eg SR202 + compressor + reverb + eq = a considerable dealy, I have found)
As you can see from the SR202 example above - one of the reasons I want to do this is so that I can play a multi out instrument with fx on each out, as in a drum machine (in fact that's the most important example!!!)
thanks again for your replys and input.
cheers
Simon
So in brief:
thanks for all the feedback, really useful.
I will try out the dummy racks, thanks Lunch Money
I'll try out chainer and ext as a host when I get back from my hols (leaving Monday am)
I don't want to make complex racks cos of the pdc (plug in delay compnesation)issue with racks (eg SR202 + compressor + reverb + eq = a considerable dealy, I have found)
As you can see from the SR202 example above - one of the reasons I want to do this is so that I can play a multi out instrument with fx on each out, as in a drum machine (in fact that's the most important example!!!)
thanks again for your replys and input.
cheers
Simon
...and so it goes (Kurt Vonnegut)
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Yeah. However--Rack Bitz wrote:lunch money my man
if hes gonna use the racks
wouldnt it be better to do it by placing all the synths inside one rack
a) I was answering a specific question
b) If you read my last post, I already made that point.
Cheers,
Greg