Waves Scheps Omni Channel
- KVRAF
- 1728 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
I bought this Waves plugin at the end of January for the limited time introductory price of $49. Less than than four months later, Waves is offering it for the lowest price ever of $29. Is it really worth being an early adopter with Waves? I would have gladly waited just a few months if I knew they would be offering it at their rock-bottom $29 plugin price. 
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- Banned
- 480 posts since 28 Apr, 2017
$20 is nothing compared to the many hundreds and possibly thousands that waves purchasers from the past have lost due to Waves latest sales pricing. A better way to look at it is that you paid less than $10 a month to have early access to it.
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- KVRAF
- 4720 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
I joked at the time of release "I'll wait for the $29 sale" - people told me I'd be waiting quite a long while for that. Guess they were wrongtonedef71 wrote:I bought this Waves plugin at the end of January for the limited time introductory price of $49. Less than than four months later, Waves is offering it for the lowest price ever of $29. Is it really worth being an early adopter with Waves? I would have gladly waited just a few months if I knew they would be offering it at their rock-bottom $29 plugin price.
PS. General rule is that every Waves plugin will be $29 at some point with very few exceptions. If you can wait, do so.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1728 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
Indeed. Most vendors do not offer a price lower than the original introductory price until after at least a year or much longer has passed. Even for Waves, this early price drop was unprecedented.MogwaiBoy wrote:I joked at the time of release "I'll wait for the $29 sale" - people told me I'd be waiting quite a long while for that. Guess they were wrongtonedef71 wrote:I bought this Waves plugin at the end of January for the limited time introductory price of $49. Less than than four months later, Waves is offering it for the lowest price ever of $29. Is it really worth being an early adopter with Waves? I would have gladly waited just a few months if I knew they would be offering it at their rock-bottom $29 plugin price.
PS. General rule is that every Waves plugin will be $29 at some point with very few exceptions. If you can wait, do so.
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- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
I did exactly the same thing. I got it at introduction and paid $49, but for me the $20 diff doesn't matter so much. It's still a good plugin and I am sure I would have wasted those $20 on something stupid anyway
..I once bought a plugin for 20$ from Sonivox and it only worked for a couple of months. That was a real waste of $20.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1728 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
Which Sonivox plugin? I am curious.ATN69 wrote:I did exactly the same thing. I got it at introduction and paid $49, but for me the $20 diff doesn't matter so much. It's still a good plugin and I am sure I would have wasted those $20 on something stupid anyway..I once bought a plugin for 20$ from Sonivox and it only worked for a couple of months. That was a real waste of $20.
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- KVRAF
- 16810 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
It stands to reason that this is the expected outcome of their business model. I think that everyone is now catching on to their eventual $29 price (plus 10% coupon, plus vendor discount) so Waves isn't going to generate as many sales with an introductory price higher than $29. Thus, the $29 sales have to come sooner.tonedef71 wrote:Indeed. Most vendors do not offer a price lower than the original introductory price until after at least a year or much longer has passed. Even for Waves, this early price drop was unprecedented.MogwaiBoy wrote:I joked at the time of release "I'll wait for the $29 sale" - people told me I'd be waiting quite a long while for that. Guess they were wrongtonedef71 wrote:I bought this Waves plugin at the end of January for the limited time introductory price of $49. Less than than four months later, Waves is offering it for the lowest price ever of $29. Is it really worth being an early adopter with Waves? I would have gladly waited just a few months if I knew they would be offering it at their rock-bottom $29 plugin price.
PS. General rule is that every Waves plugin will be $29 at some point with very few exceptions. If you can wait, do so.
- KVRAF
- 7021 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
I've learned my lesson, GAS is a terrible thing, most developers have sales, there's that much competition.
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- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
They have these so called singles plugins. It was the acoustic bass plugin. It sounds nice for being such a simple plugin. The license autorization was a nightmare and I had several contacts with Sonivox. The support was totally useless and I finally just gave up on this plug, and learned a life lessontonedef71 wrote:Which Sonivox plugin? I am curious.ATN69 wrote:I did exactly the same thing. I got it at introduction and paid $49, but for me the $20 diff doesn't matter so much. It's still a good plugin and I am sure I would have wasted those $20 on something stupid anyway..I once bought a plugin for 20$ from Sonivox and it only worked for a couple of months. That was a real waste of $20.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1728 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.ATN69 wrote:They have these so called singles plugins. It was the acoustic bass plugin. It sounds nice for being such a simple plugin. The license autorization was a nightmare and I had several contacts with Sonivox. The support was totally useless and I finally just gave up on this plug, and learned a life lessontonedef71 wrote:Which Sonivox plugin? I am curious.ATN69 wrote:I did exactly the same thing. I got it at introduction and paid $49, but for me the $20 diff doesn't matter so much. It's still a good plugin and I am sure I would have wasted those $20 on something stupid anyway..I once bought a plugin for 20$ from Sonivox and it only worked for a couple of months. That was a real waste of $20.
The best support I ever got actually came from Air who is a part of the same company. Without that support it would never have worked at all. I would not buy a Sonivox plug even if they were the last company on earth to make plugs. My personal oppinion ofc.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1728 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
You are probably right. I've learned my lesson... again. I have been holding out on upgrading my Tracktion Waveform DAW to version 9 because I felt that when I upgraded at full price for the last version, the DAW was not hardened enough with bug fixes long enough before it dropped down in price. Being an early adopter does not seem to be worthwhile that often.ghettosynth wrote:It stands to reason that this is the expected outcome of their business model. I think that everyone is now catching on to their eventual $29 price (plus 10% coupon, plus vendor discount) so Waves isn't going to generate as many sales with an introductory price higher than $29. Thus, the $29 sales have to come sooner.tonedef71 wrote:Indeed. Most vendors do not offer a price lower than the original introductory price until after at least a year or much longer has passed. Even for Waves, this early price drop was unprecedented.MogwaiBoy wrote:I joked at the time of release "I'll wait for the $29 sale" - people told me I'd be waiting quite a long while for that. Guess they were wrongtonedef71 wrote:I bought this Waves plugin at the end of January for the limited time introductory price of $49. Less than than four months later, Waves is offering it for the lowest price ever of $29. Is it really worth being an early adopter with Waves? I would have gladly waited just a few months if I knew they would be offering it at their rock-bottom $29 plugin price.
PS. General rule is that every Waves plugin will be $29 at some point with very few exceptions. If you can wait, do so.
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- KVRAF
- 16810 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
I think that you have to decide which products are worth it to you to not wait. I paid twice for Reaktor 6 because I wanted it as soon as I found out about it and I upgraded my Komplete when 11 came out. Not even mad about it, not one bit. I'll pay twice again if Reaktor 7 comes out tomorrow. For mixing tools though, just no, I wait for the sale.tonedef71 wrote:You are probably right. I've learned my lesson... again. I have been holding out on upgrading my Tracktion Waveform DAW to version 9 because I felt that when I upgraded at full price for the last version, the DAW was not hardened enough with bug fixes long enough before it dropped down in price. Being an early adopter does not seem to be worthwhile that often.ghettosynth wrote:It stands to reason that this is the expected outcome of their business model. I think that everyone is now catching on to their eventual $29 price (plus 10% coupon, plus vendor discount) so Waves isn't going to generate as many sales with an introductory price higher than $29. Thus, the $29 sales have to come sooner.tonedef71 wrote:Indeed. Most vendors do not offer a price lower than the original introductory price until after at least a year or much longer has passed. Even for Waves, this early price drop was unprecedented.MogwaiBoy wrote:I joked at the time of release "I'll wait for the $29 sale" - people told me I'd be waiting quite a long while for that. Guess they were wrongtonedef71 wrote:I bought this Waves plugin at the end of January for the limited time introductory price of $49. Less than than four months later, Waves is offering it for the lowest price ever of $29. Is it really worth being an early adopter with Waves? I would have gladly waited just a few months if I knew they would be offering it at their rock-bottom $29 plugin price.
PS. General rule is that every Waves plugin will be $29 at some point with very few exceptions. If you can wait, do so.
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 26 Feb, 2018
I'm a software developer. In general, IMO being an early adopter to any consumer tech is a bad deal. From phones to software, you are paying a premium to get a buggy, unpolished version. If you just wait a bit you pay a discounted price to be on a more robust release.
Having said that, I was among those that suggested the Scheps Omni would not be $29 any time soon. When I said that, I thought maybe by the end of year around Black Friday sales. It only took till May for the discount.
The competition in plugins is really tough these days. I wonder how much longer these developers are going to stay afloat. Many DAWs ship with great plugins now, and that wasn't the case just a few years back. Developers like Waves have to innovate massively to stand out.
And even with all of that, and being frugal myself with audio plugins, I think the Scheps Omni is easily worth $70+. I bought it for $38 and I think it is a steal at $29. I honestly don't know how Waves sells it so cheap. It is to the point I fear what's happening to the company if they have to sell a newish landmark plugin at their cheap discount rate.
Having said that, I was among those that suggested the Scheps Omni would not be $29 any time soon. When I said that, I thought maybe by the end of year around Black Friday sales. It only took till May for the discount.
The competition in plugins is really tough these days. I wonder how much longer these developers are going to stay afloat. Many DAWs ship with great plugins now, and that wasn't the case just a few years back. Developers like Waves have to innovate massively to stand out.
And even with all of that, and being frugal myself with audio plugins, I think the Scheps Omni is easily worth $70+. I bought it for $38 and I think it is a steal at $29. I honestly don't know how Waves sells it so cheap. It is to the point I fear what's happening to the company if they have to sell a newish landmark plugin at their cheap discount rate.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1728 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
You bring up an interesting point. I own the full version of the Fathom virtual synthesizer plugin; the developer has stated that low sales of the synth have made it economically unviable to keep developing it further after initially offering it at a low price (and also providing a free version of it that is only limited by single voice polyphony).jochicago wrote:I honestly don't know how Waves sells it so cheap. It is to the point I fear what's happening to the company if they have to sell a newish landmark plugin at their cheap discount rate.
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