Do You Register Your Copyrights
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- KVRist
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- 361 posts since 20 Jul, 2018
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 361 posts since 20 Jul, 2018
.. and of course the biggest reason to register copyrights if you're outside the U.S. is so you can cruise up on girls at the club and be all like "... yeah, and I was thinking about my copyrights and I was like, yeah, I think I'll register them in the United States because our local copyright law just isn't that strong, and I don't want people ripping off my sweet ass tracks" lol. So then she and all the other girls at the club can be like "Wow you know a lot about copyrights, can we have your babies .." and you can be all like
- KVRAF
- 15291 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Oh bugger, for a sec I thought your member name was law_law, our saviour.low_low wrote: I'm obviously NOT a lawyer
There never is a lawyer around here when you need one. Is there a negative correlation maybe? Do you know of any lawyers that make music? Plenty coders but no lawyers...
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- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
when my dad died a very hideous person sued me for a rather large amount, this of course means needing a lawyer. At that time my lawyer was 300 bux an hour, things came to an end right after my deposition, even before we were able to dispose the plaintiff. My lawyer played guitar, he was a very cocky guy and petty, but he also knew my history with music and working in music retail. One day I had an appointment near the office at the VA and I stopped by the office to pay that month's bill. I was handing the check to the receptionist when he walked out of the office, asked me one tiny question about the case and went back in his office, next month I was billed 75 bux for paying my bill.BertKoor wrote:Oh bugger, for a sec I thought your member name was law_law, our saviour.low_low wrote: I'm obviously NOT a lawyer
There never is a lawyer around here when you need one. Is there a negative correlation maybe? Do you know of any lawyers that make music? Plenty coders but no lawyers...
The day of my deposition was a long day going into Boston with him, we were on our way back and he said "well now that's over I wanted to talk to you about what it would take to set up a studio".
I looked back at him t knowing we are still on the clock without missing a beat and said, "I'll tell you what Rob, give me a call when I'm not paying you 300 bux an hour and we'll set something up". I then spent the next hour picking his brain
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- KVRAF
- 15291 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
The picture you paint is a bit too rosy.low_low wrote:For example ... WITHOUT registration if some big biz used your song you might sue them in court, pay your own attorney, and end up with 5,000$us in damages. WITH registration, statutory damages are up to 150,000$us PER OCCURANCE (if willful) plus attorney fees, AND it isn't limited to the 5,000$us that you suffered in damages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory ... fringement
If you write a lot, then registration can cost more than all the VSTi's and other gear you have. So it can be a serious investment of which it's uncertain it will ever pay itself back. If you're not in it for the money, then I don't really see the point...wikipedia wrote:In the United States, statutory damages are set out in 17 U.S.C. § 504 of the U.S. Code. The basic level of damages is between $750 and $30,000 per work, at the discretion of the court.
Plaintiffs who can show willful infringement may be entitled to damages up to $150,000 per work. Defendants who can show that they were "not aware and had no reason to believe" they were infringing copyright may have the damages reduced to $200 per work.
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- KVRist
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- 361 posts since 20 Jul, 2018
No idea what the point is with your wikipedia entry since it's says the same thing as the lawyer in the video above and I said ... 150,000$us for willful infringement per occurance. The entry says its less if it isn't intentional ... which ... is the same thing.BertKoor wrote:The picture you paint is a bit too rosy.low_low wrote:For example ... WITHOUT registration if some big biz used your song you might sue them in court, pay your own attorney, and end up with 5,000$us in damages. WITH registration, statutory damages are up to 150,000$us PER OCCURANCE (if willful) plus attorney fees, AND it isn't limited to the 5,000$us that you suffered in damages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory ... fringementIf you write a lot, then registration can cost more than all the VSTi's and other gear you have. So it can be a serious investment of which it's uncertain it will ever pay itself back. If you're not in it for the money, then I don't really see the point...wikipedia wrote:In the United States, statutory damages are set out in 17 U.S.C. § 504 of the U.S. Code. The basic level of damages is between $750 and $30,000 per work, at the discretion of the court.
Plaintiffs who can show willful infringement may be entitled to damages up to $150,000 per work. Defendants who can show that they were "not aware and had no reason to believe" they were infringing copyright may have the damages reduced to $200 per work.
On your second point, it's money, 35$us ... you pays your money and you takes your chances.
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
When all you are doing is looping samples I don't know how you can assume it's yours to begin with. It's a free for all now unless you have the money to buy the law upfront.
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- KVRist
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- 361 posts since 20 Jul, 2018
Exactly, which is why you register copyright That IS buying the law upfront. You're literally buying something that will cause the law to work in your favor, that will cause a court to recognize you as the owner of a song, that will cause you have a better position in a lawsuit with special privileges, etc. It's a certificate from the government that says you own the work, like a pink slip for a car, or a deed for a house. And for the rest of your life maybe people will take things away from you, but they'll never take away the rights to that song.Dasheesh wrote:It's a free for all now unless you have the money to buy the law upfront.
- KVRAF
- 15291 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
My point is that the $35 you pay is a lottery ticket that might pay you back only $200 in case of unintended infringement. The amount of $150.000 is not guaranteed but only a ceiling. Up to a judge to decide how much you get. So imho the only party guaranteed to get better off is the registration office. Artists that are struggling to get even noticed and have problems paying their bills in the first place, can spend their money in better ways. Just my opinion ofcourse..
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