Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

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ChamMusic
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893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:31 am

https://soundcloud.com/chameleon-music/lamentation

A hopefully interesting take on the 4 part chorale - for SATB (Soprano Alto Tenor Bass voices)

Vocal music is something I haven't written in this style for many years as getting a choir together is difficult and potentially expensive!

With what I now have in my music studio, I thought I might be able to pull off a VST-based recording?

The actual automation and production in general took much longer than the actual composing for this one...Wrote the actual music in just under an hour, but the production took a lot longer than that...8 - 10 hours, maybe! :0)

Does it work? That's for you to answer, not me! :0)

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wagtunes
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13613 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:34 am

It works. :tu:

What libraries did you use for this?

ChamMusic
KVRian
893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:59 am

wagtunes wrote:It works. :tu:

What libraries did you use for this?
Thank you!

Dominus Choir by Fluffy Audio (Kontakt 5 Library)

100% 'naked' recording apart from:

Very subtle stereo widening

Light touch EQ tweaks

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wagtunes
KVRAF
13613 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:04 am

ChamMusic wrote:
wagtunes wrote:It works. :tu:

What libraries did you use for this?
Thank you!

Dominus Choir by Fluffy Audio (Kontakt 5 Library)

100% 'naked' recording apart from:

Very subtle stereo widening

Light touch EQ tweaks
Well the choir sound is excellent. One of the best I've heard.

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donkey tugger
Boss Lovin' DR
4869 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:30 am

Obviously I'm no expert in anything classical (my entry for this month's KVR classical cover contest will most likely end up being me singing the 'Just One Corneto' advert backed by my shit nylon string 'classical' guitar :hihi: ) nor choirs (if you're going to sing, you need to be smoking - I'll wager they're probably not that keen..) but to me that sounds very realistic - like the stuff my dad has on Classic FM. I seriously wouldn't have had it pegged as a sample library for sure.

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DJ LFD
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133 posts since 10 Dec, 2017

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:55 am

ChamMusic wrote:
wagtunes wrote:It works. :tu:

What libraries did you use for this?
Thank you!

Dominus Choir by Fluffy Audio (Kontakt 5 Library)

100% 'naked' recording apart from:

Very subtle stereo widening

Light touch EQ tweaks
It does work, very nice. i still miss Luciano Pavarotti R.I.P. <3
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vurt
addled muppet weed
37859 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:00 am

needs more cowbell!


man, that is beautiful. not really much else to say.
well done that man!

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vurt
addled muppet weed
37859 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:01 am

donkey tugger wrote: nor choirs (if you're going to sing, you need to be smoking - I'll wager they're probably not that keen..).
id even buy a tv licence if that gareth malone feller did one of his choirs from your local pub :lol:

ChamMusic
KVRian
893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:54 am

vurt wrote:needs more cowbell!


man, that is beautiful. not really much else to say.
well done that man!

Cowbell...I'm desperately trying to resist the urge to create a choir and cowbell piece....just for the hell of it! :0)

Thanks for the comments...much appreciated.

ChamMusic
KVRian
893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:55 am

DJ LFD wrote:
ChamMusic wrote:
wagtunes wrote:It works. :tu:

What libraries did you use for this?
Thank you!

Dominus Choir by Fluffy Audio (Kontakt 5 Library)

100% 'naked' recording apart from:

Very subtle stereo widening

Light touch EQ tweaks
It does work, very nice. i still miss Luciano Pavarotti R.I.P. <3
Thank you.

ChamMusic
KVRian
893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:56 am

donkey tugger wrote:.. but to me that sounds very realistic - like the stuff my dad has on Classic FM. I seriously wouldn't have had it pegged as a sample library for sure.
Thanks for that, I'm pleased that you found it convincing...hard for me to judge objectively...too involved! :0)

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Bansaw
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367 posts since 19 Aug, 2008

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:58 am

This is really good. :tu: I was thinking of getting Storm Choir (3) when it comes out, or Oceania, but now you've made me think of Dominus.
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ChamMusic
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893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:31 am

Bansaw wrote:This is really good. :tu: I was thinking of getting Storm Choir (3) when it comes out, or Oceania, but now you've made me think of Dominus.
Thank you!

The three you mention are quite different:

Oceania / Storm are very much aimed at punchy epic choir sounds and don't really do anything else that well.

Dominus is a more restrained Latin words chamber choir...it can do emotional and intense but NOT epic as such...no big staccato hits etc.

As for using them, if you can play the piano competently and throw in key switches etc 'live' then Dominus is quite intuitive to use...I will be much faster next time I use it, although I will still have to lay down all the latin words linked to keyswitches before hand.

I've tried both Oceania and Storm as epic choirs..I dismissed the first as I just didn't find that the sound was flexible enough to fit in with my orchestral palette...Storm I liked, but found it fiddly to use and a bad fit for my way of working.

The EpIc choir I use is this one: Soundiron Requiem Light (I got it in a sale for £99). Most of it is good...nothing seriously special, but the syllable master is awesome for epic choir passages...

You can have a listen to it in action here...last section of the piece:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=509843

Also here, last section again:

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=502880

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Bansaw
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367 posts since 19 Aug, 2008

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Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:46 am

ChamMusic wrote:
Bansaw wrote:This is really good. :tu: I was thinking of getting Storm Choir (3) when it comes out, or Oceania, but now you've made me think of Dominus.
You can have a listen to it in action here...last section of the piece:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=509843
Also here, last section again:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=502880
Soundiron one sounds decent. I am looking for Epic.
Oceania is very playable but just lacks that extra punch Storm has.
I think Storm 3 is coming out and that has much updated scripting etc which might make it better in terms of workflow.
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ChamMusic
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893 posts since 12 Jun, 2006

Re: Lamentation - 4 Part Chorale (SATB)

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:01 am

Bansaw wrote:
ChamMusic wrote:
Bansaw wrote:This is really good. :tu: I was thinking of getting Storm Choir (3) when it comes out, or Oceania, but now you've made me think of Dominus.
You can have a listen to it in action here...last section of the piece:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=509843
Also here, last section again:
viewtopic.php?f=14&t=502880
Soundiron one sounds decent. I am looking for Epic.
Oceania is very playable but just lacks that extra punch Storm has.
I think Storm 3 is coming out and that has much updated scripting etc which might make it better in terms of workflow.
Agreed - Requiem Light certainly isn't as BIG as Storm, but to my ear, (having sung in choirs / played in orchestras for many years) it's sound is more 'real' as such. If you really want EPIC then Storm might be a better choice.

Note - I've used the syllable master in RL a number of times professionally and had no complaints so far, and it's a lot cheaper! :0)

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