Surge, the synth from Claes (Bitwig dev) is now open source!

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As of 21th September 2018, Surge stopped being a commerical product and became an open-source project released under the GNU GPL v3 license.

For the existing users this will allow the community to make sure that it remains compatible as plug-in standards and Operating Systems evolve.

For everyone else, this is an exiting new free synth to use, hack, port, improve or do whatever you want with!
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http://www.vemberaudio.se/surge.php

https://github.com/kurasu/surge
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Cant find a downloadlink for just the vst 2 64 bit windows version or an installer for it, just something I have to recompile or whatever ?

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O.k., found the answer in another thread:

https://github.com/kurasu/surge/releases

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Interesting. Might this predict the opening of the modular system? Since the Nitro code of plugins will be open to the public at that time (unless they develop some way to encrypt it, which could interest 3rd parties who want to develop commercial add-ons for Bitwig), and assuming that bits of this code are included in some BW devices, they technically would have to do something like this...

Hmm, just hoping :D

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Taika-Kim wrote:Interesting. Might this predict the opening of the modular system? Since the Nitro code of plugins will be open to the public at that time (unless they develop some way to encrypt it, which could interest 3rd parties who want to develop commercial add-ons for Bitwig), and assuming that bits of this code are included in some BW devices, they technically would have to do something like this...

Hmm, just hoping :D
I don't think so. The VST was developed in 2005 and last stable version was from I think 2008, so I doubt there are many (any?) dependencies with Bitwig's code base. Claes wrote he doesn't have the time* to work on it anymore and probably didn't see many new sales anyway, so decided to give it away for free and open the code.

* although THIS makes me think we're close to the open modular environment :)
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Am still totally flabbergasted why they didn't pull this into BWS, Surge is so musical, averse from any hype.
Weird.

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SpaceCadetOnLeave wrote:Am still totally flabbergasted why they didn't pull this into BWS, Surge is so musical, averse from any hype. Weird.
I'd guess it's because this type of device is against Bitwig's "ideology" (for a lack of better word) where every device is supposed to be stripped to its bones and you're expected to piece together more complex things yourself using layers, chains, modulators, etc.
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Maybe someone could build a Bitwig Preset that recreates the core behaviour of Surge?

I didn't tried it yet but I guess many of the audio components have some (at least workaround) counterpart in Bitwig studio.

Of course there's no way yet to pack everything together into a more streamlined device GUI. Although I can imagine that one day something like this will be possible. (instead of just the remote control pages which have a slightly different purpose anyways) (I mean something where GUI elemtents, including knobs, buttons, sample views, oscilloscpe views of a device and its subdevices can be merged into a new super GUI).
EDIT: ... or maybe even GUI elements of tracks, clip view ... just started dreaming ;)

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I just wonder how much effort it would need to port it to MacOS. I never did something like that, but it might be a start...
It is supposed to do MPE. That triggers my curiosity...

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u-u-u wrote:just started dreaming ;)
yeah! another SynthEdit, FlowStone or Reaktor to bitch about! :D

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This has been one of my favourite synths and it's always nice to hear of connections you didn't know of between creators of gear you like.

In saying that, the architecture of Bitwig leaves me to desire very little at the moment.

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Tj Shredder wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:22 pm I just wonder how much effort it would need to port it to MacOS. I never did something like that, but it might be a start...
It is supposed to do MPE. That triggers my curiosity...
Have you tried the new January 2019 builds of the 64-bit macOS VST/VST2/AudioUnit? If you run into any issues with MPE, please hit us up at the Surge Synth Slack:
https://join.slack.com/t/surgesynth/sha ... mNhYzQ3NTU

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hey esaruoho, is your Surge VST2 build for macos already capable of playing all sounds like these should sound?

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Hanz Meyzer wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:41 pm hey esaruoho, is your Surge VST2 build for macos already capable of playing all sounds like these should sound?
Tell me more. Which sounds in Surge VST2 (Opensource) do not sound identical to Surge VST2 (Surge1.52 prior-to-opensource)?
Would be useful to know that. I only have access to the new January builds and do not have any access to the older plugin versions prior to Kurasu opensourcing Surge to GitHub.

Would really appreciate if you could throw the name of a patch or two at us that does not play correctly with the new-Surge.

extra-bonus-points for a recording of what it sounds like on old-surge and the name of a patch so can play it with new-surge and see what it sounds like.

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Oh, no no, I dunno. For me so far I could not even run the VST2 version, it did not appear in the DAW at all. And my question was, is it mostly working like it should or is it buggy like hell? What is your opinion?

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