T2 Requests List - v.1.0

[beyer]

ok, I seem to understand there was no official request list so far.

let's start one here:

please please please everybody just requests, keep it short and no opinions and comments.

let's not behave like an official steinberg forum

when this thread becomes too messy or old, somebody please recap and post the clean version as T2 Requests List - v.1.1 (and so forth...)

[beyer]

-REX support, why not.

-not having the mouse single-ckick to set the song position: I am used to click and drag to define the selection area and it feels like the most natural thing (it works like this in everything), instead there could be something like control + click for setting the song position.

-Following from that, I never liked double click as a way to start the song, although it's not a huge problem.

-more shortcuts, as standard as possible; in particular, shortcuts for song position, set loop around selected object. (edited out previous requests for stuff that is already there, oops.)

-keyboard shortcut to scroll horizzontally and vertically (other than wheel + shift)

-markers or locators, and shortcuts to enter them and recall them.

-enable recording on multiple tracks simultaneously (midi and audio)

-Snap disconnected from zoom but assignable through shortcuts.

-better midi editor: many contrasting opinions on what better is, but here I go:

press a key (z like it is now would do) the editor expands to fill the screen, actually replacing the edit view, thus keys and tools don't disappear as soon as you click in the wrong area.

my personal preference is to have separate tools for entering notes and changing their lengths: it gets very frustrating when you try to lengthen a very short and instead you end up moving it, and viceversa.

being able to select and edit more than one midi clip at a time, like in cubase, great to check harmonies and conflicting lines between different
instruments.

-pity that when you freeze a track nothing more can be done to it: if freezing is creating a temporary audio file, I would expect that I should be able to do the usual things to this file, change volume, add plugins, automation etc.

-being able to see more than one automation curve at a time.

-this is a big one, and it might not be well received, but, as tracktion is adding more and more super cool functions and features, there might be a need to rearrange the bottom end of the screen to fit all these buttons, organize them in different families or maybe even have a few "traditional" menus up there on the top bar: I know it sounds like an heresy and I apologise profusely for just even thinking about it.


* * * if it sounds like what I want is cubase, no, I want tracktion, but some parts of cubase were working really well for me.

[AD80]

[Lunch Money]

Some of those things are already available! -->

-'i' and 'o' for locators
-You... CAN record multiple parts at the same time...
-CTRL rather than ALT IS the standard for dragging copies, and it is already there.
-Not sure about Cubase, but it's pretty easy to edit more than 1 MIDI clip at a time. I'm not sure why you're not able to, or what it is about Cubase's functionality that makes it different.

As for the rest... well, I suspect that Jules already has his list and has been working on it, so threads like this are pretty much moot anyhow; though they certainly make for good discussions.

-I, for one, would like to be able to set more than just an I and an O marker. Is this available already?

-I would also like MIDI dissolve

-I would prefer Cubase's way of using "ghost" clips for copied and pasted clips, rather than having T create an entire new clip for the copy. Then, changes to the original are reflected in all instances

-I would like to be able to "glue" clips together without having to render the area in question.


Greg

[beyer]

Some of those things are already available!

-'i' and 'o' for locators
-You... CAN record multiple parts at the same time...

sorry, my mistake for not checking thoroughly, I will edit those two out of my list.

-CTRL rather than ALT IS the standard for dragging copies, and it is already there.

As far as I know ALT is standard (at least on PC), try on cubase, photoshop, although I am aware that Logic uses CTRL, and Reason too, so, ok, there is no standard...

-Not sure about Cubase, but it's pretty easy to edit more than 1 MIDI clip at a time. I'm not sure why you're not able to, or what it is about Cubase's functionality that makes it different.

I mean the ability to see the midi events overlapping on the same editor, but being able to still edit one clip at the time (the two clips are superimposed as if they were on two sheets of transparent plastic, great for spotting the odd clashing note in a scale)

As for the rest... well, I suspect that Jules already has his list and has been working on it, so threads like this are pretty much moot anyhow; though they certainly make for good discussions.

Well, it doesn't hurt to ask, in fact your other requests are things I can totally agree with.
And what seems an obvious thing to add might not be so to Jules, and yet he might feel like adding it just because it's been requested and he's a nice guy.

[Lunch Money]

Agreed!

Also agreed about the overlapping thing. A workaround (agreed, it's a workaround) is the SHIFT-Drag one clip on top of the other. This is only half-assed, though, because it's annoying switching between clips; however, if you're only working on one clip at a time, at least the bottom one is visible as a reference point.

Still, it's probably the most inelegant of all our workarounds, and what you suggest would be better.

As for CTRL-Drag, I have to admit, my assessment of a "standard" did not refer to other music apps, but to Windows itself. In explorer, CTRL+Drag is what makes a copy, while ALT+Drag makes a shortcut.

Greg

[AD80]

Welcome Beyer.

-REX support, why not.

Indeed. Been requested many times.

-not having the mouse single-ckick to set the song position: I am used to click and drag to define the selection area and it feels like the most natural thing (it works like this in everything), instead there could be something like control + click for setting the song position.

This is why I love Tracktion and ditched Cubase. Its much easier to move around an edit when you can click on any empty part. Instead of having to reach up to the top bar like in Cubase. Once you get used to it you'll never go back to the Cube way of doing it. Alt-click will allow you to select a range of clips.

-Following from that, I never liked double click as a way to start the song, although it's not a huge problem.

I use spacebar for start/stop but dont mind the double click since it doesnt get in the way.

-more shortcuts, as standard as possible; in particular, shortcuts for song position, set loop around selected object. (edited out previous requests for stuff that is already there, oops.)

"M" will set the markers around a clip.

-keyboard shortcut to scroll horizzontally and vertically (other than wheel + shift)

Agreed. Although I probably wouldnt use it much. But I'm sure many would.

-enable recording on multiple tracks simultaneously (midi and audio)

Easier than in Cubase IMHO

-Snap disconnected from zoom but assignable through shortcuts.

I think thats one of those love/hate features that Tracktion has. Either you love it or hate it. I personally think its the greatest thing ever. Using Cubase it was a constant hassle changing snaps all the freggin time. I've never had to change the snap in Tracktion . I just zoom with the mousewheel to the area I want to work on and the snap is set for me. Wonderful.

But yeah if there was an option like in Logic or Live to widen or shrink the snap with keys it would be useful for some.

-better midi editor: many contrasting opinions on what better is, but here I go:

I think midi editing will be much improved in T2 which is a good thing. Who knows what Jules has planeed tho.

-pity that when you freeze a track nothing more can be done to it: if freezing is creating a temporary audio file, I would expect that I should be able to do the usual things to this file, change volume, add plugins, automation etc.

The render/add, or render/replace are much more useful than freeze (atleast right now). They give you all the options you're looking for. And muting a track will release the CPU, unlike Cubase . So theres no extra CPU load for keeping muted midi tracks even with instruments and effects on them.

-being able to see more than one automation curve at a time.

You can put automation from any plug-in, on any other track. So you can have separate tracks each with a different automation curve. Which is the way Cubase does it. However, you cant fold them to hide them quickly like you can in Cubase, so it can get a bit messy with a lot of tracks.

-this is a big one, and it might not be well received, but, as tracktion is adding more and more super cool functions and features, there might be a need to rearrange the bottom end of the screen to fit all these buttons, organize them in different families or maybe even have a few "traditional" menus up there on the top bar: I know it sounds like an heresy and I apologise profusely for just even thinking about it.

I think these are the things that make Tracktion different. Things could be improved but I sure as hell wouldnt want Tracktion to use menus and top-bars in the way Cubase does.

but some parts of cubase were working really well for me.

Not me. I dropped it a year ago and would never want to go back. I'd like some features from Cubase but definitely nothing from its work-flow. Its just a matter of getting un-Cubased.

[SuitcaseOfLizards]

My requests:

#1: LINKED MIDI CLIPS. Oh *please* implement this, I don't want to have made 20 copies of a complex clip and end up having to go back and edit each one by hand! Oy!

#2: Changes in the MIDI editor. I'm with the request for a different tool to change note lengths, I've messed myself up uncounted times moving a note when I wanted to change the length. I'm hard put to say WHAT needs doing other than that, though.

#3: Track grouping, with collapse/expand capability. This would save immensely in screen clutter when constructing complex, multiple track drum parts (among other things).

The only other thing I can think of is to have T2 fetch dinner when I'm hungry but in too much of a creative frenzy to cook! I know there's this thing called a "wife" that might do that job, but they seem to be very high maintenance - and I just got rid of one - so I'd rather have T2 do it.

[Rack Bitz]

my wishes for T2

1 everybody to get off Jules case and let that nut come up with whatever he comes up with

2 Jules to start making tunes again cause hes so f**king rich he has sixteen elves doing the programming for him

3 a teleporter would be nice

4 an elastic cock i can stretch to any length (so i dont have to get out of bed to piss)

hope you like these ideas and implement them soon Jules

cheers

[GaryG]

4 an elastic cock i can stretch to any length (so i dont have to get out of bed to piss)

that's been in T since 1.3.0.45

RTFM dood!



How about an option to uninstall T and install the Cubase demo? Could be just what some people need...


.g

[AD80]

How about an option to uninstall T and install the Cubase demo? Could be just what some people need...


.g

[ModuLR]

-keyboard shortcut to scroll horizzontally and vertically (other than wheel + shift)

take a look in the keymappings... there are options for scroll tracks left, right, up and down. they are just not mapped to any keys. and BTW, CTRL is standard for making copies. CTRL+drag any object in explorer and it'll be copied.

[powercenter]

1 USER-grooves
being able to sync all grooves with your groove
this for me would safe alot of time,at the mo I have to start my session in
Reason and get it all going there ,and then ,I have to export every groove,into
Tacktion,in order to let Tracktion take the stage and to utilize the vsti plug
folder

[powercenter]

1 USER-grooves
being able to sync all grooves with your groove
this for me would safe alot of time,at the mo I have to start my session in
Reason and get it all going there ,and then ,I have to export every groove,into
Tacktion,in order to let Tracktion take the stage and to utilize the vsti plug
folder

[powercenter]

1 USER-grooves
being able to sync all grooves with your groove
this for me would safe alot of time,at the mo I have to start my session in
Reason and get it all going there ,and then ,I have to export every groove,into
Tacktion,in order to let Tracktion take the stage and to utilize the vsti plug
folder