LAUNCH! VAST Dynamics - Vaporizer2 - Hybrid Wavetable Additive / Subtractive Synthesizer / Sampler / Workstation

[onerob]

I don't think it's a good idea (not on Mac, anyway) to expect users to drag the tables and presets folders to the plugin folder. It would be better to use an installer and place presets etc.. in /Library/Application Support/Vast Dynamics/.

Yep, the Mac installer is on the top of the list.

[Teksonik]

Just out of curiosity did anyone on this project ever work on a plugin called Nexsyn ?

[EvilDragon]

Nicely evaded Kurzweil's trademark for V.A.S.T.

[vastdynamics]

I wish you great success with your project......

Thank you!

[vastdynamics]

Just out of curiosity did anyone on this project ever work on a plugin called Nexsyn ?

No, I don't know it - is it similar or related?

[vastdynamics]

Nicely evaded Kurzweil's trademark for V.A.S.T.

Would never dare to mess with Ray.

[bmanic]

That's a great point and one of the fundamental design decisions. Implementing real-time wavetable effects is not a big deal actually and I experimented with it a lot. But in the end it is almost always adding non-linearities and thus artifacts to the sound as the result is no longer bandlimited. Maybe I am too much a purist but I don't like the idea that a synth creates random noise in the high frequencies. Therefore I changed the whole idea to designing the right wavetable to use and Vaporizer2 offers a lot here, even to generate a full table. And I would recommend to compare the sound of e.g. real-time hardsync of other wavetable synths with a generated hardsync table in Vaporizer2 - I personally like it much more in Vaporizer2. And: in the end it is about sound and what you can do. I did not come across many things that you cannot do in that way.

It's not at all always about the end result. How you get to the end result and how easy it is to achieve that end result weighs heavily on the value of the instrument. Example: Csound is stupidly powerful and can do all kinds of crazy stuff. Is it mainstream and used by tons of people? No.

Every time you "hardcode" an effect into a wavetable, it will be static and predefined. Thus it would take stupid amounts of time to program anything that reacts for instance to velocity and become virtually impossible to achieve once you have multiple modulators that affect each other that then affect the "effect". For instance in the case of hard-sync.. why on earth would anybody want a statically hard synced sound? The whole point with sync sounds is that you modulate them with complex interaction from the instrument (velocity, pressure, timing differences of ADSR depending again on velocity etc).

The sacrifice you've made is HUGE. I get the feeling you don't fully seem to understand yourself what is missing.

Granted, there ARE ways to use those complex wavetables to get a lot of variety and dynamic changes in sounds but it's very tedious work and not at all fun to explore. Basically it all ends up being manipulating a look-up-table and generating interesting look-up-tables. Not very inspiring in my opinion.. and you still end up with cases that are impossible to do (or at the very least, stupidly inconvenient to achieve which would take a few seconds to do on another synth).

Sorry for being so brutal with my feedback but this is how I honestly feel. There are very good reasons why the kind of solution you've chosen hasn't been all that popular in the past.

[vastdynamics]

Just added an additional free Factory preset bank 2 by Thomas Trupiano:

• 440 basses, bells, drums, organs, plucks, risers, stabs, synths, trance gates, voices

Available here:
http://www.vast-dynamics.com/?q=products

[GreyLion]

Just now downloaded the demo, hoping it works okay in Reaper for me. I like the look of the GUI and the sounds in the demo tracks.

You way want to update your KVR listing/link. It's showing Vaporizer 1.22 and a price of $29.90.

[alvfaria]

Bought it. The sound is super clean. Not THAT light on CPU, but still good. I will try to make some presets for this one.

[goldenanalog]

[vastdynamics]

I take it that when you import your own wavetables into Vaporizer2 that they will also be band limited? It would also be great if imported wavetables are not any more of a load on the cpu then the native wavetables provided.

Also: have you considered bringing granular synthesis into its feature set?

Yes, all kind of wavetables that you draw, design or import will be bandlimited and create no artifacts in the high frequencies (see Nyquist's theorem). Try to use an arbitrary single cycle in the wavetable editor and play a very high note.

On granular I like it - but this would be a whole dimension of new topics to be introduced. This is currently not planned. But never say never.

[vastdynamics]

Bought it. The sound is super clean. Not THAT light on CPU, but still good. I will try to make some presets for this one.

Thank! Very happy to include it in the Factory banks referencing you as author if you like.

[goldenanalog]

[_al_]

I like this!
One question though
If i convert a sample into a wavetable, is it saved in the preset (meaning i can delete the sample and the wavetable will still load with the preset)?

Also, mseg snap to bpm grid would be great