Hive 1.2.1 maintenance update RC rev. 8256

[tasmaniandevil]

Hi everyone,

we are about to release a small maintenance update for Hive.

Besides the issue which led to some wavetables not loading on certain Linux machines, we fixed some more glitches in the wavetable section.
Scripts will now automatically reload when you edit and resave them.
And the wavetable hexagon should display error messages if there is something wrong in the code section of the wavetable file.
Last but not least, we finally found out what caused those clicks in the left channel when using odd buffer sizes and certain audio interfaces.

With all those fixes, we thought it might be good to give you a sneak peek prior to the official release, so you can check if the bugs are really fixed, and nothing else got broke.

Here are the links for Hive 1.2.1, revision 8256 (Mac, Win, Linux):

Hive 1.2.1 RC 8256 Mac
Hive 1.2.1 RC 8256 Win
Hive 1.2.1 RC 8256 Linux

And an overview of what we fixed since the release of Hive 1.2.0 (revision 8115):

* Fixed locale issue which caused scripts to not load on some Linux systems
* Fixed rare issue causing clicks on note release in left channel
* Fixed wrong frame count for stereo wavetable samples
* Fixed wavetable info (disappeared if apostrophe was used)
* Fixed automatic loading of scripts while being edited
* Fixed scripting error messages
* Windows installer now includes “Hive Wavetables.pdf”
* Improved semitone knob scaling

[zvenx]

Thanks Tas.
rsp

[Andregmendes]

Hi guys, I noticed the Hive takes sometime to load the first time I try to import it into Ableton. Don't know if this is just in regards to the 1.2 version but I'll download the 1.2.1 and will let you know if it also happens there too.

All the best!

[Urs]

Hi guys, I noticed the Hive takes sometime to load the first time I try to import it into Ableton. Don't know if this is just in regards to the 1.2 version but I'll download the 1.2.1 and will let you know if it also happens there too.

All the best!

That might be because of scanning the preset database. You can deactivate it happening every time in the preferences.

[sinemotor]

* Improved semitone knob scaling

[Gone soft]

Still not possible to load wavetables if the filename contain certain characters like norwegian æ ø å. I expected it to at least be on a to do/fix list.

[Urs]

Still not possible to load wavetables if the filename contain certain characters like norwegian æ ø å. I expected it to at least be on a to do/fix list.

We're baffled by this one. It only happens on Windows, but there is no platform specific code involved from our side. So it must be system libraries or stuff that we have no access to.

OTOH the team which works on the preset browser is currently working on something very similar, which is installation paths with user names with special characters. That project has been in the works for more than three months now, and it's still not finished. Just to give you an estimate of how complicated such things can be.

Hence, decision was made to wait for this special project of the preset browser team to finish up, then see how it relates to wavetable filenames on Windows, then if possible deploy the same fucntionality as well. Also, chances are good that merging the new code into our code base will also fix the issue in Hive without further development.

[Gone soft]

Ok, thanks for trying explain the baffling mystery Urs. Less sweat for me to continue to rename affected files for now, and hopefully you'll work it out eventually.

[Ploki]

Still not possible to load wavetables if the filename contain certain characters like norwegian æ ø å. I expected it to at least be on a to do/fix list.

Frankly, i generally just avoid special characters from my language. I've learned it's usually just asking for trouble.

[Rivanni]

Still not possible to load wavetables if the filename contain certain characters like norwegian æ ø å. I expected it to at least be on a to do/fix list.

Frankly, i generally just avoid special characters from my language. I've learned it's usually just asking for trouble.

Think of all the languages that don't use the so called western alphabet. Russian, Chinese, Korean, Japanse etc. Unicode is the way to go.

It baffles me that the developers need more than three months to deal with this.

[Ploki]

Think of all the languages that don't use the so called western alphabet. Russian, Chinese, Korean, Japanse etc. Unicode is the way to go.

It baffles me that the developers need more than three months to deal with this.

ouchy

i do most of my computing in english anyway... but yes, i forgot about those.

[Urs]

Still not possible to load wavetables if the filename contain certain characters like norwegian æ ø å. I expected it to at least be on a to do/fix list.

Frankly, i generally just avoid special characters from my language. I've learned it's usually just asking for trouble.

Think of all the languages that don't use the so called western alphabet. Russian, Chinese, Korean, Japanse etc. Unicode is the way to go.

It baffles me that the developers need more than three months to deal with this.

The task is a little bit larger than "just that". We've been supporting all unicode for a while in most plug-ins, but apparently not all standard libraries work equally as well on each platform for stuff like fonts and filesystems. Plus, there's simply no way we're going to bundle a full 100+MB unicode font with our stuff. Making substitutions and stuff is a pain in the ass - we simply had to leave old operating systems behind to make it work with current ones.

Anything like this is usally a scope that explodes into new side tracks every day.

[Freaqpeak]

I just realized that Hive 1.2.1 takes alot more CPU than it used to on my computer. I can't swear that it wasn't the same with 1.2 though. I haven't uninstalled 1.2.1 and installed 1.0 or 1.2 again, I just wanted to make sure I'm the only one having problems before I start re-installing Windows/Cubase and all that.

I get about 50-75% CPU usage using one Hive instance on some wavetable based sounds when set at ~8+ voices (wasn't this more dynamic before?). My Hive instances seems very sluggish all of a sudden.

I also get a grey box in the GUI where the hexagon and preset names are when tabbing between windows in Windows, it's only there for 1-2 seconds, but it feels wrong/sluggish. I can't play older projects that uses alot of Hive instances either. And as I said, this is probably due to my computer/some Windows update causing this, but since I've pretty much only using Hive atm, I don't have much to compare to (and other plugin/synths seems running the same..).

I'm running Win7 64bit, Cubase 9.5.41, 6 GB of RAM, i7 3820 @ 3.6 Ghz

I just demo'ed Diva in best quality mode and Hive actually takes a lot more CPU than Diva does right now. Isn't that weird?

Here's a screenshot.

[Urs]

That is weird! Can you send us a project maybe?

[Freaqpeak]

It's a bit weird, I will install Hive on another computer and see if the same thing happens.
Anyways, I have started a support case via the U-he support webform instead. I really should stop hijacking threads like this.