Hive 2.0 is out!
- KVRian
- 1466 posts since 25 Sep, 2011
I can't even begin to imagine what Zebra 3 will be, after this jewel of a synth, and all the things u-he has learned after all these years of awesome plugins. I think it will be the pinnacle of software synthesizers. Can't wait. Until then, I'll keep having fun with Hive 2, RePro and Bazille. Urs, take my money for Zebra 3.
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- KVRAF
- 11521 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Urs did kind of set an insanely high bar for himself didn't he?Yorrrrrr wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 3:47 am I can't even begin to imagine what Zebra 3 will be, after this jewel of a synth, and all the things u-he has learned after all these years of awesome plugins. I think it will be the pinnacle of software synthesizers. Can't wait. Until then, I'll keep having fun with Hive 2, RePro and Bazille. Urs, take my money for Zebra 3.
- KVRAF
- 1626 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
Thank you F.E.T. for sharing your walk-through! I found your approach to understanding Hive 2.0's function generators very useful. Your special call-out to using "Constant" for the function generator input after its initial value of "None" has disappeared was invaluable and saved me much confusion.
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- KVRAF
- 1626 posts since 21 Sep, 2007 from USA
I am really digging this Hive update. One feature request I have for Urs and the U-he development team to implement for an upcoming Hive 2.x update would be an addition to the Hive 2 filter set of some kind of a vowel/formant filter.
Now I know we can just process the audio output from Hive 2 through an external formant filter plugin. However, having such a filter built into Hive 2 would introduce interesting possibilities that an external plugin just could not deliver -- courtesy of Hive 2's powerful and flexible modulation capabilities along with the visualization capabilities of the new scope tab.
I like playing around with the formant filters that are built into other synths; having one to play with in Hive 2 would make the synth even more fun to play with.
Now I know we can just process the audio output from Hive 2 through an external formant filter plugin. However, having such a filter built into Hive 2 would introduce interesting possibilities that an external plugin just could not deliver -- courtesy of Hive 2's powerful and flexible modulation capabilities along with the visualization capabilities of the new scope tab.
I like playing around with the formant filters that are built into other synths; having one to play with in Hive 2 would make the synth even more fun to play with.
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- KVRAF
- 2024 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
Much wow!Joe Leidigkeit wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 1:38 am So fast, so sophisticated, so easy, so versatile. Pure enjoyment. Totally stunned.
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- KVRAF
- 2024 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
If you weren't following every single thread on Hive's development it's possible to have missed the memo on Hive 2 pricing, as it were, but I concur that it was brought up and discussed multiple times across multiple threads and imo it doesn't get much more transparent than that. My understanding is that intro pricing on u-he products is strictly for day one, v1 releases which is then followed up by fixed pricing, with no regular sales and low upgrade pricing. It's a bummer or anyone to have missed out this time but at least it will be more clear when Z3 comes around that intro pricing, unless explicitly confirmed by u-he themselves, won't be on the cards. Live and learn as they say!Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 6:55 pmI think they've been very transparent about how the pricing of Hive 2 was going to work. I remember reading "Price stays $149, upgrade is $20, free if you bought after 1/22/2019" a few times. The idea was not to kill sales of Hive 1.0 completely. If they released 2.0 and sold it with a discount, anyone who bought recently would've felt slighted by not waiting. This was the best compromise and they told anyone who was interested how it was going to work. I mean, they could've raised the price to $175 then done a $149 intro price, but that's not ideal either and you're paying the same price in the end.
If you happen to know of any third-party resellers that offer discounts, you might be able to find Hive for a few bucks less than the U-he regular price. I know of a small US retailer that offers something like 15% discounts to KVR members for most purchases.
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- KVRian
- 580 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from not where I want to be...
And let's not forget the simple and effective copy protection too. It doesn't makes you jump through hoops or install 3rd party crap. I feel respected as a customer.DuX wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 9:45 pm I'm just going to say this: u-he is the only soft-synth company that has never made a synth that I was disappointed with. From sound, stability, memory usage, to GUI and usability, that's just how things should be. Most of the soft-synth companies should learn a thing or a dozen from u-he. I think that should be praised. The effort, the expertise, devotion and professionalism like this deserves to be praised.
Cheers!
- GRRRRRRR!
- 15970 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
I find it incredible that you can make copy protection all about you and not about a company trying to protect its hard work from less honest people.
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- KVRAF
- 2024 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
And a special mention for the generous demo conditions too. No short or long-term time limits, full save/recall on patches and inoffensive noise/crackling bursts with a long period. They have a strong enough belief in their products that there's very little in the way to pressure you into buying them until you have fully decided that they're right for you.tuzemec wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2019 8:03 amAnd let's not forget the simple and effective copy protection too. It doesn't makes you jump through hoops or install 3rd party crap. I feel respected as a customer.DuX wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2019 9:45 pm I'm just going to say this: u-he is the only soft-synth company that has never made a synth that I was disappointed with. From sound, stability, memory usage, to GUI and usability, that's just how things should be. Most of the soft-synth companies should learn a thing or a dozen from u-he. I think that should be praised. The effort, the expertise, devotion and professionalism like this deserves to be praised.
Cheers!
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- KVRAF
- 35449 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
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- KVRAF
- 2024 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
Oh goody, another Hive thread in the Instruments sub that is barrelling towards a locking....
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- KVRAF
- 2024 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
There was just the one, but it's still wasn't great for a devs thread to be locked because people couldn't exercise a little restraint. It would be a shame for the same to happen again.
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- KVRAF
- 2024 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London