Is this really the GUI now?
Alternatives to Jamstix?
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- KVRian
- 523 posts since 26 Jan, 2020
This reminded me of my old Jamstix license.
Is this really the GUI now?
Is this really the GUI now?
There are two kinds of people in the world. Those which can finish a tune, and those which has 300 two-bar loops.
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- KVRAF
- 1644 posts since 8 Feb, 2013 from Switzerland
Yes, from its own styles absolutely. But you're looking (also) for something that varies user MIDI drum patterns in an intelligent way, right?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
Jamstix takes a basic pattern and a drummer style and creates drum parts based on that. It creates them from either predefined parts or MIDI. Lots of tweakable parameters too.
Looking for something similar but better maintained.
Looking for something similar but better maintained.
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- KVRAF
- 1644 posts since 8 Feb, 2013 from Switzerland
If you ask me then I answer: There's no real alternative as we speak. 
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
Shame. Ralph was always so responsive, and bugs were quickly squashed, but it’s not getting much attention anymore and has some major UI bugs.
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Groove Agent and some Air drums (Transfuser and the other one I forgot it's name!) have complexity degree not intelligent patterns depending on your music like jamstix.
Anyway, for electronic beats I would use randomiser for one line (like hats or kicks) then keep pressing the random button till I get something fitting better (like in Computer Drum of Sugar Bytes). If in a sequencer, I just fill the line manually but almost random (FL Studio is fast with that).
For a "pro" acoustic drums though, I have bought hundreds of midi patterns and keep reviewing them (I need Cubase or Reaper in that case).
Doesn't Logic Pro have drummers? Otherwise you can hire a real drummer if you are rich
Anyway, for electronic beats I would use randomiser for one line (like hats or kicks) then keep pressing the random button till I get something fitting better (like in Computer Drum of Sugar Bytes). If in a sequencer, I just fill the line manually but almost random (FL Studio is fast with that).
For a "pro" acoustic drums though, I have bought hundreds of midi patterns and keep reviewing them (I need Cubase or Reaper in that case).
Doesn't Logic Pro have drummers? Otherwise you can hire a real drummer if you are rich
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
Not really using it for electronic drums as those are easy to program/sequence. I’m more interested in natural fills.
If I had space for a kit I’d play them myself, but looking for something that can creates natural sounding fills and variations. Jamstix can do that (if it was working right)
If I had space for a kit I’d play them myself, but looking for something that can creates natural sounding fills and variations. Jamstix can do that (if it was working right)
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- KVRian
- 838 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from UK, Polegate
I recently bought Jamstix and it actually seems quite unique in many of its functions...we definitely need more like it (or just more updates and support). It does crash occasionally on Win 10 if you try and drag'n'drop the MIDI, but not as bad as you're experiencing.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
Yeah, I am using it on Mac, and the last update introduced some serious bugs that haven’t been fixed. For example, every time I click on the interface it goes black, and needs a second click to make the interface reappear...
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- KVRist
- 64 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Laurentides, Quebec
I own both Jamstix and EZDrummer2. EZDrummer2 can import MIDI and generate parts from it. I have tried to use Jamstix for years without much success, too complex for me...
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
Jamstix is amazing, and it’s not as complex as you think - once you learn it there is so much you can do with it.
I checked out EZ Drummer, but it seems like it doesn’t create variations or fills.
I checked out EZ Drummer, but it seems like it doesn’t create variations or fills.
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- KVRist
- 64 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Laurentides, Quebec
You are right EZDrummer does not "generate" parts but it can "find" matching parts from a MIDI groove with Song Creator. I find this very useful...
Here's a video that demonstrate this a little bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Yv_ElNC5E
Here's a video that demonstrate this a little bit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Yv_ElNC5E
Last edited by mpoirier on Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRAF
- 14994 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
It’s not exactly the same, but try MDrummer by Melda. I think there’s a free or cheap version.
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- KVRian
- 838 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from UK, Polegate
Nothing really does what Jamstix does as far as I can tell - others do the MIDI library basically, and Jamstix produces stuff on the fly with unique and subtle variations.
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- KVRist
- 161 posts since 30 Jun, 2015
OP wrote please no melda due to their mac customer policy. But Jamstix is unbeaten anyways with the requirements OP has.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:37 pm It’s not exactly the same, but try MDrummer by Melda. I think there’s a free or cheap version.
