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Boss Lovin' DR
7638 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:54 pm

Been a bit in lazy reflective writing mode recently. Here's a jaunty little number. Long beginning bit is slightly ripped off a little bit of a nod to 'Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me', with the background crowd noise, mebbe... :scared:

http://www.bennyleeds7.myfreeola.uk/don ... r-form.mp3

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KVRian
1061 posts since 10 Oct, 2018

Post Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:09 pm

Sounds a bit sad. Not sure why.

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Boss Lovin' DR

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7638 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:41 am

excuse me please wrote:
Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:09 pm
Sounds a bit sad. Not sure why.
Merciless minor key manipulation, old timey piano with wobble, soft-ish crooning, big dollop o' reverb...was never going to be a floor filler.. :hihi:

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KVRian
738 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:19 am

Beautifully restrained in every way...the harmonic pace, melodic flow, subdued piano timbre etc...loved it!

Vocal sections - they definitely work and are highly appropriate, but i think the piece would've maybe also been very effective without?
Mark Taylor, Chameleon Music - Professional composition and sound design for all media since 1994.

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KVRist
472 posts since 27 Apr, 2005 from Ireland

Post Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:16 am

Very nice .really like the vocal. Maybe you could increase the velocity of the piano notes in the last verse for a bit more emotional effect.

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KVRAF
20243 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Post Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:09 pm

About time I heard something new from you. Anyway, this was totally unexpected. If I tried to pull of something like this it would sound so bad, dogs would start howling. But you pulled it off perfectly.

Minor nit pick. IMO, piano could use just a touch of EQ cut somewhere around 400. But that's just personal taste on my part.

FYI, this is the only piece of music I've listened to all day outside of my exercise CD.

KVRAF
2975 posts since 21 Mar, 2020

Post Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:31 pm

I think we have just discovered KVR's Tom Waits. 8) I realy enjoyed listening to this DT - nice work! :tu:

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Boss Lovin' DR

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7638 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:39 pm

Thanks all for listening and the useful comments. New version up now (same link at the top) with more velocity scaling on the piano (also nicely varied the vibrato depth and rate a bit more, which I have linked to volume.. :love: ), so there's a bit more of a lift at the end, plus a bit of vocal automation to compensate. Also a leeetle scoop (nothing too much) in the lower mids, which hopefully makes it a bit clearer without sacrificing the 'body' of the piano.

http://www.bennyleeds7.myfreeola.uk/don ... r-form.mp3

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Boss Lovin' DR

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7638 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:46 pm

ChameleonMusic wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:19 am

Vocal sections - they definitely work and are highly appropriate, but i think the piece would've maybe also been very effective without?
Indeed, I always like the music to stand up on its own as far as possible without the vocals, but sometimes get it horrendously overdone- luckily not too much going on here.. :hihi:

I've still got loads of bits left over from writing this. As usual it started life as something completely different, on guitar (128bpm shoegazer strumming on electric.. :lol: P) then I decided to totally change it, and recorded it again on the (ahem) 'You Rock' midi guitar, and spent ages editing it. Long and short is that I might go back later on and do some kind of extended all instrumental version..I'll see!

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Boss Lovin' DR

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7638 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:55 pm

Erisian wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:31 pm
I think we have just discovered KVR's Tom Waits.
New one! :o

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KVRian
738 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:09 pm

donkey tugger wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:39 pm
Thanks all for listening and the useful comments. New version up now (same link at the top) with more velocity scaling on the piano (also nicely varied the vibrato depth and rate a bit more, which I have linked to volume.. :love: ), so there's a bit more of a lift at the end, plus a bit of vocal automation to compensate. Also a leeetle scoop (nothing too much) in the lower mids, which hopefully makes it a bit clearer without sacrificing the 'body' of the piano.

http://www.bennyleeds7.myfreeola.uk/don ... r-form.mp3
I think you've achieved a little more clarity without losing any of the warmth - nice tweak!
Mark Taylor, Chameleon Music - Professional composition and sound design for all media since 1994.

https://www.chameleonmusic.co.uk/

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KVRian
738 posts since 23 Nov, 2018 from Birmingham, UK

Post Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:10 pm

donkey tugger wrote:
Mon Feb 15, 2021 2:46 pm
ChameleonMusic wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:19 am

Vocal sections - they definitely work and are highly appropriate, but i think the piece would've maybe also been very effective without?
Indeed, I always like the music to stand up on its own as far as possible without the vocals, but sometimes get it horrendously overdone- luckily not too much going on here.. :hihi:

I've still got loads of bits left over from writing this. As usual it started life as something completely different, on guitar (128bpm shoegazer strumming on electric.. :lol: P) then I decided to totally change it, and recorded it again on the (ahem) 'You Rock' midi guitar, and spent ages editing it. Long and short is that I might go back later on and do some kind of extended all instrumental version..I'll see!
I can definitely hear it working with a small, silky smooth string ensemble behind the piano!
Mark Taylor, Chameleon Music - Professional composition and sound design for all media since 1994.

https://www.chameleonmusic.co.uk/

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KVRAF
9982 posts since 13 Mar, 2009 from UK

Post Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:46 pm

As a piece of minimalist songwriting, this is an object lesson to budding artists everywhere. I think the vocal works really well with that piano.

This certainly reminded me of Peter Gabriel from the "good old days".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO0CrlYZlQw

Good work :)

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Boss Lovin' DR

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7638 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire

Post Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:08 pm

seismic1 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:46 pm
As a piece of minimalist songwriting, this is an object lesson to budding artists everywhere. I think the vocal works really well with that piano.

Cheers. This 'minimalism' lark is harder than it seems! Always having to resist the temptation to lob in some more stuff.. :hihi:

I've got one more I'm doing - some 6 minute plus acoustic guitar thing at about 50bpm..very difficult.. :scared: After that I think it will be a bit of metel/punk for a change.

KVRian
1387 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany

Post Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:41 pm

Really minimalistic and melancholy. Above all: it slows you down!
For people with high blood pressure we should recommend this song. :)

But seriously: Well done! You dared to make a song like that.
Singing: Wonderful! :tu:
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