[FR] MTurboComp Serial Xovers

[E_Anderson]

Serial processing in the form of a crossover setting would be super useful to keep everything contained to one instance.

Also, pre-saturation either between the follower and compression stages or just as or with a knob to control how much their dynamics are preserved (!) would allow for a lot of beefing up of the sound in some very flexible ways. Might need one or two more saturators for that though...

Being able to keep some of these processes down to one plugin, so I don’t have anything to think about when loading up plugins besides doing the work itself all from inside what is otherwise a massive flagship of dynamics control is a really relaxing way to work honestly (and would be more with some of the above/below requests... )

Now with skeuomorphic UIs, it’s so fun to use even in the dumb ways I hope that didn’t hurt on a spiritual level, adding those skins in. They are pretty darn fun. TurboComp is amazing!

Thanks!

[AlexShesha]

It would be great to have the same gain staging for all devices in MTurboComp. Atm levels are jumpling all around depending on the model. Literally only issue I have with Melda

[E_Anderson]

I was going to ask for another feature actually (serial mode) but I realized this is also pertaining to something I don’t really know about yet, and that is knees versus serial compression.

Certainly the follower settings are where this process differs, but is there any other way? Soft knee appears to accomplish half of it itself.

Is it possible to have a serial option for either the crossovers or parallel crossover? Before I started digging into MTC I though the followers and processors were linked (1-1, 2-2 etc) and could be run serially or parallel but I discovered how to do the latter. (These crossover settings are about the coolest things I have ever seen)

[steve2KVR]

I requested a "serial" option for the xcover bands awhile back. It's not uncommon for me to use two or three compressors on a vocal or acoustic guitar track. It's easy enough to do on the DAW channel strip or in Mxxx for that matter...but, just the same.../s~

[Chandlerhimself]

A serial option would be great. You could make something similar to the shadow hills compressor.

[E_Anderson]

It’d also open the door to pre-saturating the sound and then recovering the dynamics with a compression stage. I guess it’d also be cool to be able to just move one of the saturation modules to post-envelope follower, pre-compression (one or both; could even add another saturator or two disabled by default but that become mobile as far as where they take place in the chain)

Serial alone would be awesome, I know Vojtech is busy...

[E_Anderson]

Actually I think the only way to get close to the insane punch something like Presswerk has is presaturation. Especially with whatever the “dynamics” knob is doing (my guess is preserving them scaling with knob value... alternatively it’s Saturn one-knob dynamics! no)

I’m a noob, I’m sorry. Is it possible to do feedback/feedforward in MTC? Is one of those how it works by default? I’m just trying to not buy Presswork (it’s awesome, so is DC8C and so is MTC). Last Compressor I’ll Ever Need 2021 I’M STILL A BELIEVER

[Held]

Does it really matter how a result is achieved? Just listen to both and decide which one you like better.

I mean, Presswerk's page gives the impression that it sounds amazing while MTCs barely says anything about the sound, so going by that, you'd think Presswerk is better.

But as we all know, marketing doesn't always reflect reality and music is highly subjective, so you'll just have to trust yourself to make the right decision based on sound rather than technical details.

Is that why MDMB is considered cleaner, is that you’re starting from a clean slate? I haven’t seen why else it’s called “more clean”.

I think clean refers to only doing the thing it's supposed to do. A clean compressor like MDMB only changes the volume while MTC also adds distortion/saturation and EQ.

[E_Anderson]

Does it really matter how a result is achieved? Just listen to both and decide which one you like better.

I mean, Presswerk's page gives the impression that it sounds amazing while MTCs barely says anything about the sound, so going by that, you'd think Presswerk is better.

But as we all know, marketing doesn't always reflect reality and music is highly subjective, so you'll just have to trust yourself to make the right decision based on sound rather than technical details.

I agree with your second sentence there and that’s how I came to ask these questions, I don’t know how marketing got involved though probably because I want FB/FF even though I haven’t yet looked up what they mean (presumably signal pathing not available inside MTurboComp). No, they just sound interesting. As does the dynamics-preserving presaturation, pretty awesome for pounding a signal into a phat beauty. Post-saturation just isn’t the same; and the dynamic preservation itself makes something like MPhatik interesting, I’d have to try that vs. Presswerk, but having such a feature in MTC would be almost game-over (even game-over-er than it already is)

Thanks for the tip in MDynamics, that about wraps up the last .5% of my buyer’s remorse about TurboComp (I‘ve come a ways in relaxing into the similar feature sets + the 4 processors being able to achieve what the custom curves do for the most part)

[E_Anderson]

Well I was wrong! It's not presaturation, it was just follower mode (linear is working great for this kind of ultra-responsive clicky-attack character; so many MTC emus use Opto) and me not paying attention to the curve shape at which a lot of the sound was taking place on Presswerk, which was hovering mostly around where it starts to bend downwards again at high ratios (meaning there's some upwards compression happening for a lot of the sound too), so after paying closer attention to that I got a lot closer sounds out of TurboComp! Like way closer, to the point where I was easily able to dial in what I was loving and A/Bing with Presswerk I was pretty much loving MTC. I'll probably end up making a few easy-screen presets that loosely model Presswerk/Molot for this kind of behavior, I'm new but haven't paid enough attention to whether any of the preset emus are working this way in MTC.

All that being said, presaturation with dynamic preservation does sound really good and I love it in Presswerk even if it wasn't responsible for what I thought it was. I hope that gets added in, or else I'm going to have to buy MXXX or MPhatik or something which will be great but I am very, very poor and can't wait to someday have it

I love MTurboComp so much though! The more I learn about it, the more stoked I am.