Early Reflections Dampening in MTurboReverb

[E_Anderson]

Hi there,

Are there any plans to bring dampening controls from the Late Reflections tabs into the Early Reflections tabs as well? This is a feature I really enjoy for taming the early reflections but keeping them sparse and lively with all of the direct control offered by the Early Reflections interface. Being able to use the EQ as a dampening curve for the ERs/LRs (independently as well...) would be very useful for sitting something however you want it to sit spatially.

Secondly, I’m only reading through the manual/trying some things out, but I’m curious if you can insert variables into the algorithms and assign parameters to them, or whether there are parameters besides Complexity that automatically change parts of the algorithm.

What a reverb, really hoping I can scrounge up the change to buy it coughcough I’m currently selling some plugins on KVR check it out ahhhem

[jmg8]

The LR has feedback in the algorithms, each time the audio passes through it gets filtered each time, getting darker on each pass. This is how dampening works. ER only sound once, they are the first reflection and tell your brain about the room (size shape etc) so dampening would not be relevant here. From memory, I believe the ER has a filter? This would be what you are looking for to change the tone of the ER.

Yes you can assign up to 3 values in the algorithm that can be attached to MPs using the 3 param controls, in the syntax you must specify $1. Read the help in the syntax section, there is more info there.

[E_Anderson]

The LR has feedback in the algorithms, each time the audio passes through it gets filtered each time, getting darker on each pass. This is how dampening works. ER only sound once, they are the first reflection and tell your brain about the room (size shape etc) so dampening would not be relevant here. From memory, I believe the ER has a filter? This would be what you are looking for to change the tone of the ER.

Yes you can assign up to 3 values in the algorithm that can be attached to MPs using the 3 param controls, in the syntax you must specify $1. Read the help in the syntax section, there is more info there.

Thanks for the help! The ER dampening is available in Nimbus/R4 and I find it pleasing to give a little touch of it, as especially in larger spaces the later reflections have traveled further so distance in air would begin to attenuate the highs slightly. And maybe they’d have begun to diffuse very slightly. I’m hoping this is something that can be addressed in MTR as well as I find it very useful for letting the ERs sort of breathe with the space instead of a flat EQ curve. Perhaps feeding ERs into each other at varying lengths and levels of filtering/diffusion +/- into a variably sparse Early LR would achieve the same effect, hopefully flexibly enough that some easy screen controls could function as well sonically as the ER section in those EA reverbs.

I’ll be going over the manual very thoroughly soon, it’s very good to hear though that you have control over more than complexity/dampening/diffusion.

Part of me wants to use MTR also as a delay, along the lines of Timeless, and I think combining an ER module with a very sparse Late module and tying their time-related values together with MPs will work out decently. Putting the entire parametric EQ in the feedback loop would be ideal for the user of course. I was excited to see that was possible, but I only assumed. I guess it’d be hard to put an EQ anywhere but the end or beginning of the loop; that’s assuming there is a clear one beginning or end.

[Held]

Isn't Decay what you're looking for

Decay controls the level of the reflections with increasing time. By lowering the decay you can make the reflections, which arrive later, sound less prominent, which is natural, however it also shortens them early reverberation section. By increasing the decay towards 0dB you can make all reflections similar in loudness, providing less natural sound, which can however provide some sort of tightness often useful when mixing.

Chandler also made a video about using Early Reflections

[E_Anderson]

Isn't Decay what you're looking for

Decay controls the level of the reflections with increasing time. By lowering the decay you can make the reflections, which arrive later, sound less prominent, which is natural, however it also shortens them early reverberation section. By increasing the decay towards 0dB you can make all reflections similar in loudness, providing less natural sound, which can however provide some sort of tightness often useful when mixing.

Chandler also made a video about using Early Reflections

It’s close, but the little bit of highs attenuation as the later reflections took place is what I was after. My best bet is using multiple ERs with increasing filtration or some sparse LRs set to early with dampening, when making the larger spaces that would be asking for it.

Chandler’s video on the ERs is great. It’s my favorite part of this reverb aside from the static filtration (I have a similar feeling toward the filters at the end which don’t interact with the feedback loop). It looks super fun to dive into, hope I can (hinging on selling some of my other plugins to fund this one though)