acceptance of subscription services
- KVRist
- 492 posts since 27 Apr, 2013 from Denmark
As long as it's entirely optional and there aren't any shenanigans involved to try and steer people away from the buying the full version
Right approach: Presonus Sphere (from what I can tell)
Questionable approach: Reason+
Right approach: Presonus Sphere (from what I can tell)
Questionable approach: Reason+
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- KVRAF
- 5451 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
Yup, that's me - though it's more about not penalising any perpetual customers for me. If subscribers get a great deal on their terms, good for them.loungepanda wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:46 pm As long as it's entirely optional and there aren't any shenanigans involved to try and steer people away from the buying the full version
Roll it out far and wide, just don't break perpetual for those of us who prefer it. Therefore I don't know what to click in the poll.
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- KVRAF
- 2374 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
It works for some things like TV/films/Music or vast catalogues of sounds/stock images etc…, but not for software. I can't stand SAS.
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- KVRAF
- 2374 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
I think you should clarify the choices. Are you talking about things like prime video/ spotify? Or just reason/izotope subscription. The question is too broad.
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- KVRian
- 1179 posts since 2 Jan, 2004 from England
Dislike intently. Music for me tends to be a winter hobby, photography a summer hobby. As a result, subscriptions can sit for up to 6 months a year being terrible value for my money.
I've just left Adobe CC for that very reason, and their early release fee means I will never go back and will actively seek out non subscription photo alternatives.
I've just left Adobe CC for that very reason, and their early release fee means I will never go back and will actively seek out non subscription photo alternatives.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105895 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 766 posts since 18 Nov, 2010
I understand it, and also dislike it at the same time. We used to buy a thing, and KEEP it as is. Now, with software, there is an option for it to grow better and better over time. Subscription addresses that, where new versions used to.
So, it's like, do you wait two years, then by a newer version that has many new amazing features, or keep what you got, or pay a continuing thing and be on the latest version with all the features? Espeically if they cost out the same. ?
And programmers got to eat too. I get that. Especially if enhancing - adding more work into programming. Thus, new version to buy later.
I dunno.... not going to fix the poll, it is VERY unscientific, make it mean whatever you want it to. very general
- KVRAF
- 2374 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
Affinity is what I switched too.danbroad wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:49 pm Dislike intently. Music for me tends to be a winter hobby, photography a summer hobby. As a result, subscriptions can sit for up to 6 months a year being terrible value for my money.
I've just left Adobe CC for that very reason, and their early release fee means I will never go back and will actively seek out non subscription photo alternatives.
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- KVRAF
- 2374 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
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- KVRAF
- 15007 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I hate subscriptions for multiple reasons. First of all, you’re now tied to a system that’s often trying to phone home, and when nobody’s home, you can’t use the software you paid for. Several times during my time as a Roland Cloud subscriber I was basically told that my payment was irrelevant because they were having an issue. If that was the one and only time I was going to use a Roland plugin that month, I was ripped off.
Second, I often go many months without using a plugin. I like to have a wide variety of software to work with. I guess I could just subscribe for a month when I’m in the mood, but I can’t be bothered to keep track of that. I’m already juggling multiple subscription TV services.
Second, I often go many months without using a plugin. I like to have a wide variety of software to work with. I guess I could just subscribe for a month when I’m in the mood, but I can’t be bothered to keep track of that. I’m already juggling multiple subscription TV services.
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- KVRAF
- 2374 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
But we got to this point buying our software and upgrading when new features were useful to us. The last 30 years or something have worked perfectly fine like this. Now even my thermostat wants me to subscribe!! TBH, it's getting ridiculous.wwjd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:53 pmI understand it, and also dislike it at the same time. We used to buy a thing, and KEEP it as is. Now, with software, there is an option for it to grow better and better over time. Subscription addresses that, where new versions used to.
So, it's like, do you wait two years, then by a newer version that has many new amazing features, or keep what you got, or pay a continuing thing and be on the latest version with all the features? Espeically if they cost out the same. ?
And programmers got to eat too. I get that. Especially if enhancing - adding more work into programming. Thus, new version to buy later.
I dunno.... not going to fix the poll, it is VERY unscientific, make it mean whatever you want it to. very general
I didn't vote as it's too broad to say, meaning, I have no music software subscriptions and don't indend too for as long as possible, but I do have music and video subscriptions. I also still cherish my old DVD collection which I regularly use and some of my favourite time is spent with my kids going through my DVDs. You just don't get that same feeling with Netflix.
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- KVRAF
- 2374 posts since 9 Jan, 2014 from Worldwide
Aaannddd... that is an excellent point. I have several DAWS I need only occasionally, a few minutes a month in some cases! What if every delay and reverb plugin was subscription? lolzerocrossing wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:59 pm I hate subscriptions for multiple reasons.
I often go many months without using a plugin. I like to have a wide variety of software to work with. I guess I could just subscribe for a month when I’m in the mood, but I can’t be bothered to keep track of that.
I think a few companies that offer everything might get away with it for a bit, but if everyone ends up doing it, the users will ultimately suffer through lack of choice. No, I am not a fan, but each to their own. If I was a newbie, a cheap monthly subscription might actually be very inviting.
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