What kind of future does Nest have?

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sandbags
KVRist
Topic Starter
181 posts since 5 Apr, 2009 from Berkshire, UK

Post Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:13 am

Hi.

I'm a bit on the fence about Nest. I find it interesting but I have to wonder if it is going to get additional modules & capabilities over time or whether "this is it"?

Exploring the "What's New" for a few other Sugar Bytes plugins suggest that most get a few fixes but little in the way of new possibilities after release.

That is, perhaps, to be expected for an instrument or effect that is more or less a complete idea at launch but a modular environment is, by definition, far more open-ended. But this isn't Max or Reaktor where I can explore new territory myself, I'm dependent on SugarBytes adding new possibilities.

But the updates over the 5 months since Nest was released are predominantly a couple of extra clocks & scale presets. It's not suggestive of any wider vision of what Nest might become.

Should we consider Nest to be a complete idea and its present functionality as a (potentially useful) constraint? Or is there a roadmap outlining how it will evolve?

Thanks.

Matt

Sugar Bytes
KVRian
1222 posts since 27 Apr, 2007

Post Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:36 am

Hi Matt,

Nest was built with a fixed structure, so new/different modules are only realistic, if they fit the existing architecture,
as we did in some of the existing modules which can be switched for different tasks. However, we often get inspired
by customer feedback, so we address feature requests as far as we deem possible. So do not hesitate to let us know what should be improved. Best Rico

SLiC
KVRAF
8684 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:21 am

I am waiting for the ipad version of nest...any news?
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imrae
KVRAF
2055 posts since 2 Jul, 2010

Post Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:31 am

I was waiting for VST3 hosting, I don’t think that’s there yet?

sandbags
KVRist
Topic Starter
181 posts since 5 Apr, 2009 from Berkshire, UK

Post Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:16 am

Sugar Bytes wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:36 am Hi Matt,

Nest was built with a fixed structure, so new/different modules are only realistic, if they fit the existing architecture,
as we did in some of the existing modules which can be switched for different tasks. However, we often get inspired
by customer feedback, so we address feature requests as far as we deem possible. So do not hesitate to let us know what should be improved. Best Rico
Thank you, Rico, for your reply.

I don't think I am suggesting changes to the architecture — it depends whether the addition of new modules or the ability to have more instances of a module are architectural or not I suppose.

My demo ran out a while ago so I can no longer talk first hand but I do remember being frustrated with what appeared to be arbitrary limitations. IIRC a simple one was constants and wanting more of them. I couldn't see why I couldn't just add as many constant modules as I wanted.

One can either look at those as per design (Nest will always be like this) and therefore constraints that may chafe but be considered useful. Or they are accidents of design and could be changed in future. But, without a roadmap to understand how you intend Nest to evolve, it's very hard to know what one is buying into.

For me, it's not quite enough to say "we get inspired by customer feedback" since, as I mentioned, it seems rare that past products get significant updates in functionality.

Thanks.

Matt

SLiC
KVRAF
8684 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:56 am

My personal thoughts were that things like VCV rack exist with almost unlimited flexibility for about the same cost (or free) and it can host VST 3 plugs and fx (with the VCV Host plugin ) and now run as a VST...Nest has to be 'different' to compete or it is just a limited subset of modules that cant interconnect with anything outside of NEST. To me it only really made sense as an iPAD app (ideally AUV3) when the limited nature makes more sense as they are somewhat more manageable on a small screen.
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