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midi2themax · Post by **midi2themax** » Sat Apr 30, 2022 4:27 pm

Hi to all,
I am VERY new to Plug'n Script, which I hope to use to create my own MIDI VSTs. (I am not interested in audio plugins, for now). I installed Plug'n Script, loaded as a VST3 inside Ableton Live (windows version), modified and exported one of the MIDI examples. However:

Plug'n Script "plain" VST (non Synth) is seen by Ableton as an audio effect and can be placed only *after* an instrument, therefore it doesn't receive MIDI; the "Synth" VST appears to Ableton as an instrument, it receives MIDI but doesn't output MIDI and therefore cannot be used as a MIDI effect. Also, if I add a "real" Live instrument (eg Grand Piano) such an instrument replaces the VST, because a track can host only one instrument.

What am I doing wrong? how can I create a MIDI effect using Plug'n Script? ... I couldn't find the answer in the manual

thanks,
Francesco

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Tue May 03, 2022 8:16 am

In the world of VST (and VST3), there is no such thing as a MIDI-only FX. So you need to insert Plug'n Script as an audio effect, and do the MIDI routing manually from it to the VI using an extra MIDI track.

You can find more details about this in Ableton Live's VST & MIDI output tutorial.

BTW I am not sure if Live does support MIDI out from a VST3 properly, so you may have to use the VST2 version instead.

midi2themax · Post by **midi2themax** » Tue May 03, 2022 5:04 pm

it worked, thank you! ... FYI, I haven't done in-depth tests, yet it seems to be working fine also with the VST3 version of BnS

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Wed May 04, 2022 6:27 am

Great!

TonesFreak · Post by **TonesFreak** » Wed May 04, 2022 7:00 am

This is also a nice tool https://github.com/timothyschoen/PlugData
A vst3 or au plugin with pure data.

midi2themax · Post by **midi2themax** » Wed May 04, 2022 10:02 am

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TonesFreak wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 7:00 am This is also a nice tool https://github.com/timothyschoen/PlugData (https://github.com/timothyschoen/PlugData)
A vst3 or au plugin with pure data.

Thank you, it looks very interesting! I don't use PD, but I do most of my development with Max, and the switch shouldn't be too difficult.

TonesFreak · Post by **TonesFreak** » Wed May 04, 2022 4:55 pm

midi2themax wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 10:02 am I don't use PD, but I do most of my development with Max, and the switch shouldn't be too difficult.

If you are familiar with "max" then you already understand pure data for the most part. A few different.

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