advice on using presswerk and satin on my modular synth

[neuromod]

Hey folks,

I've been running my eurorack setup into my laptop, and generally am quite happy with the mix I'm getting, with two instances of Presswerk popped on the master outs. (Two because they're complimentary presets the preset designer intended to be used in tandem, the second just to limit stray transients ... I've forgotten the preset names).

But I also own a copy of Satin, and I was wondering if I'm missing out by not using it. Last night I got to experimenting with that as compliment to or replacement for Presswerk on the master outs, as well as trying the group feature on each channel to experience the maximized glue effect. And of course I can hear it when I push it into "effect" type settings, but I think I have a hard time hearing what's good with the more subtle settings.

So I thought I'd come here for advice from those with more experience. One thing that would probably be relevant is that my "main" modular inputs are a submix through Steady State Fate's Vortices, which is already intended to color the sound in tape-like ways. I'm assuming Satin would be doing more interesting things than the relatively-cheap-compared-to-what-it's-trying-to-emulate Vortices, but Vortices is colouring the sound before it gets to my computer and maybe not leaving Satin with as much to work with. My inputs into the computer, then, are a submix through Vortices, a kick, a bass, and a couple of delays.

Do any experts have any advice on using Presswerk and Satin together (including "don't"), and arrangements to try (e.g. Satin on individual tracks, leaving Presswerk on the master bus, or Satin after Presswerk on the master), preset advice, and so on? Urs, I'd be curious if you're bouncing your modular through any of your effects.

Thanks gang!

[glokraw]

I'd set up 5 tracks, one for Presswerk, one for Satin, one for Presswerk effected by Satin, and one for Satin effected by Presswerk.

Pick an uncluttered reference track, typical to your music, and solo record it on each of the tracks for some time, changing presets and parameters you're familiar with,
then import the tracks into an audio editor, for visual and audio comparison.
Use the same order of changes on each track so the results are easy to compare accurately, and reproduce as things progress.
Cheers