Virus or deepmind
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- KVRAF
- 16136 posts since 13 Nov, 2012
I have both but prefer Virus (Virus TI2).
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- KVRAF
- 2982 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
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- KVRAF
- 12264 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
On paper, the Virus beats the DeepMind in just about every feature category except for actually being analog. Whether or not it’s “better” is entirely subjective.
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
I bought a Deepmind 12 a month ago, and was initially disappointed in it after trying all the presets, and unplugged it ready to put it back in in its box. But I decided to give it another go the other day, and started by initialising it and building my own sounds from scratch. Now I am really enjoying using it, and my Alpha Juno 2 and Juno 6 are both being ignored as the Deepmind can get pretty close to both of them in a much smaller compact design.
As for a Virus versus Deepmind comparison I guess it depends what sort of sounds you are looking for? The Deepmind presets are full of sounds based on the FX and Mod Matrix, and they may appeal to someone seeking the Virus sound, as they radically change the sound from analogue sounding to digital, and have plenty of weird stuff in there, but I have never played a Virus so cannot comment. The main point for me of the Deepmind is the buttons and sliders which gives hands on control of the main parameters while shaping the sound I am looking for.
As for a Virus versus Deepmind comparison I guess it depends what sort of sounds you are looking for? The Deepmind presets are full of sounds based on the FX and Mod Matrix, and they may appeal to someone seeking the Virus sound, as they radically change the sound from analogue sounding to digital, and have plenty of weird stuff in there, but I have never played a Virus so cannot comment. The main point for me of the Deepmind is the buttons and sliders which gives hands on control of the main parameters while shaping the sound I am looking for.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
It depends on what sounds you want.
What sounds or experience are you looking for?
They are not synths i would put in the same category.
I see deepmind as a synth based on the Juno and a good bang for the buck.
I see virus as an superb trance machine but quite a bit more expensive than the deepmind.
The virus is also digital so maybe more easily exchanged by a plugin than the deepmind (sort of). Viper by Adam szabo is a pretty good emulation although not all features of the Virus are emulated.
What sounds or experience are you looking for?
They are not synths i would put in the same category.
I see deepmind as a synth based on the Juno and a good bang for the buck.
I see virus as an superb trance machine but quite a bit more expensive than the deepmind.
The virus is also digital so maybe more easily exchanged by a plugin than the deepmind (sort of). Viper by Adam szabo is a pretty good emulation although not all features of the Virus are emulated.
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- KVRian
- 1345 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden
They're not really comparable. DeepMind 12 is a monotimbral analog synth inspired by the relatively simple Juno-106, Virus is a completely digital, multitimbral synth.
Agreed with the above statement that the Virus has mostly been superseded by plugins these days. There's even a plugin that emulates the DSP chip inside the Virus to let you run the actual Virus algorithms in the plugin (though it only runs up to the Virus C at the moment), producing identical sound to the hardware (minus the DAC stage).
Agreed with the above statement that the Virus has mostly been superseded by plugins these days. There's even a plugin that emulates the DSP chip inside the Virus to let you run the actual Virus algorithms in the plugin (though it only runs up to the Virus C at the moment), producing identical sound to the hardware (minus the DAC stage).
Take a single oscillator, producing a drone. Send it to the wave shaper, altering the tone.
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care
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- KVRAF
- 12264 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
The MI/Aura editor does work pretty well, although their support is atrocious/nonexistent and I still prefer the implementation of the original Access Virus Control plugin over the third-party MI editor. Unfortunately, VC is no longer an option for those of us who use modern Macs, so it's good to have the MI option. If you're on a Windows machine or an older compatible Mac OS, be sure to try the Virus Control software before buying the MI editor.gtgttggtg wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:15 pm Thanks guys , sounds like I’m going to purchase the virus , I think the editor mystery islands has great communication with the virus as a plug in to
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- addled muppet weed
- 111341 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
both, one for wibbles, one for wooshes.
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- KVRAF
- 12264 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
What about the oontz-eses?
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- addled muppet weed
- 111341 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 4112 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from A Swede Living in Budapest
I owned both and I sold the Deepmind and kept the Virus. I didn't have any real complaints about the sound of the DM - I actually liked the sound a lot - but the interface was like walking through mud on a rainy day. Lots of menu diving and the responsiveness of the display wasn't the best either. Everything felt sluggish. But good tone and good effects. If Behringer would come out with a DeepMind mk2 I would definitely be interested.
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HARDWARE SAMPLER FANATIC - Akai S1100/S950/Z8 - Casio FZ20m - Emu Emax I - Ensoniq ASR10/EPS
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- KVRAF
- 12106 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
I owned both and I sold both! Enjoyed them both whilst I had them but needed the space for new things (+ Summit sort of gave me a bit of both!)
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- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
I have a Deepmind 12 and find it OK. The resolution of the display could be improved, but its functional. I initialise a patch and create a new one without needing to go into the menus much. The majority of what is needed to make new sounds can be done using the sliders and a few button presses. I am not a fan of FX, so maybe a bit of reverb and chorus and my "menu diving" is finished. The great thing about the Deepmind is its size. its compact and takes up little room. At the end of the day, more knobs, sliders, and buttons would mean a much bigger keyboard.