WayOutWare TimewARP 2600
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- KVRist
- 32 posts since 28 Oct, 2023
I got this with a bundled purchase years ago and never bothered to install it until yesterday. I assumed because of its age it couldn't be all that great, then come to find out this 20 year old plugin blows both Arturia and Cherry's versions out of the water! Arturia's 2600V has lots of powerful extra features, so I have no intention of parting with it, but for convincing 2600 sounds, I feel WayOutWare's version wins hands-down.
As for Cherry's version? For the price it's a good learning tool with a few extras added on, but I find the sound quality lacking, and there's no polyphony option. Dedicated 2600 freaks will want either TimewARP for accuracy, or Arturia's version for the extra sound design functions.
As for Cherry's version? For the price it's a good learning tool with a few extras added on, but I find the sound quality lacking, and there's no polyphony option. Dedicated 2600 freaks will want either TimewARP for accuracy, or Arturia's version for the extra sound design functions.
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
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It's not difficult to blow the cherry 2600 out of the water
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- KVRist
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- 32 posts since 28 Oct, 2023
I understand that lol. But for a VST, I'd say this is the one to get.egbert101 wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:33 pm It's still a VST and does not compare to a real ARP 2600.
- KVRAF
- 6279 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
no way! i though it was a real analogue synth somehow squeezed into my monitor. thanks for letting me know!egbert101 wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:33 pm It's still a VST and does not compare to a real ARP 2600.
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- KVRAF
- 4206 posts since 13 Jun, 2014
Glad to help. Let me know if you need any help on glasses.plexuss wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:49 pm no way! i though it was a real analogue synth somehow squeezed into my monitor. thanks for letting me know!
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Mineralhillsworkshop Mineralhillsworkshop https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=422528
- KVRist
- 59 posts since 13 Jul, 2018
Now... When I listen to the Moog Mariana with Audeze lcd-x's. I haven't done a side by side comparison yet but it blew me away and sounds super thick and analogue like. I compared it to Diva and Diva was actually missing something in comparison. Would really like a second opinion though. I will check out TimewARP!
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- KVRAF
- 3219 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
Interesting. Can you be more specific as on what it gets right relative to the others or is it just overall better sounding to your ears? Do you have a real 2600 or clone available?
A-Grade_Audio wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:16 pm I got this with a bundled purchase years ago and never bothered to install it until yesterday. I assumed because of its age it couldn't be all that great, then come to find out this 20 year old plugin blows both Arturia and Cherry's versions out of the water! Arturia's 2600V has lots of powerful extra features, so I have no intention of parting with it, but for convincing 2600 sounds, I feel WayOutWare's version wins hands-down.
As for Cherry's version? For the price it's a good learning tool with a few extras added on, but I find the sound quality lacking, and there's no polyphony option. Dedicated 2600 freaks will want either TimewARP for accuracy, or Arturia's version for the extra sound design functions.
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- KVRAF
- 5510 posts since 6 May, 2002
Wayoutware was bold enough to publish A/B comparisons with original Arp Hardware, oscillators, filters etc.egbert101 wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:33 pm It's still a VST and does not compare to a real ARP 2600.
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- KVRAF
- 18340 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I don’t believe that there is a good 2600 emulation, yet. That said, it has nothing to do with software not being up for the challenge. While not sounding alike in character, you could absolutely make a “2600” in Softube Modular. It’s going to have Moog, Sequential, or Roland sounding oscillators and filters, but you could definitely get the functionality and of a very good quality.
I’m actually surprised that Softube hasn’t done a 2600 yet, or that Arturia hasn’t brought its old plugin up to date.
I’m actually surprised that Softube hasn’t done a 2600 yet, or that Arturia hasn’t brought its old plugin up to date.
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Teilchenbeschleuniger Teilchenbeschleuniger https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=230335
- KVRer
- 11 posts since 23 Apr, 2010 from Bremen
Arturia's got those killer features, no doubt. Cherry's is decent for learning, but the sound quality falls short.
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
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They all fall short when you route the filter output into the preamp and back .
All of these youtube comparisons only showcase the most fundamental stuff , an osc ..some filtering .S-H on the filter ..blimey ..and they get excited on how accurate it sounds ...lol
They're either payed shills for mediocre companies or total noobs
All of these youtube comparisons only showcase the most fundamental stuff , an osc ..some filtering .S-H on the filter ..blimey ..and they get excited on how accurate it sounds ...lol
They're either payed shills for mediocre companies or total noobs
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- KVRAF
- 5510 posts since 6 May, 2002
https://www.softube.com/modulargentleclockdivider wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:11 pm They all fall short when you route the filter output into the preamp and back .
They could do a 2024 virtual 2600 justice
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- KVRian
- 837 posts since 23 Feb, 2023
Nice to see that at least someone else has figured out that 'old' does not equate to 'bad'. If more had the courage to test in such manner there would be much dismay about modern plugs other than they are inefficient compared to older plugs...
Along those lines you should also check out the Arppe2600va it's pretty damn good, free & old-
http://glenstegner.com/softsynths.html
The GUI size is reasonable, I prefer smaller than that-

Recently rediscovered the Klangformer Synth which made it to public beta, It's pretty fantastic too for a 20 year-old Synth I really like the compact size-

And for a public beta came with a buttload of presets-

No folks if it sounded great back then it still sounds great now sure there were some krappy but that still stands today. Steinber-Wizoo XPhraze is never gonna sound bad because of age & will never be 'obsolete'. Same with first version ImpOSCar which sounds just as good as current, Just current has fancy browser & more presets & a few other options folks it's all about SELLING, not the sound... Mesmerizing the populace is a marketing tool>>>
Along those lines you should also check out the Arppe2600va it's pretty damn good, free & old-
http://glenstegner.com/softsynths.html
The GUI size is reasonable, I prefer smaller than that-

Recently rediscovered the Klangformer Synth which made it to public beta, It's pretty fantastic too for a 20 year-old Synth I really like the compact size-

And for a public beta came with a buttload of presets-

No folks if it sounded great back then it still sounds great now sure there were some krappy but that still stands today. Steinber-Wizoo XPhraze is never gonna sound bad because of age & will never be 'obsolete'. Same with first version ImpOSCar which sounds just as good as current, Just current has fancy browser & more presets & a few other options folks it's all about SELLING, not the sound... Mesmerizing the populace is a marketing tool>>>
