How to move Edit to other Projecte ??
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- KVRist
- 64 posts since 14 Oct, 2021
Hi you all. Something I find very difficult in Tracktion Waveform is files management.
Sometimes I got an Edit which I would like to split on a new musical idea that I want to be related on a different project (on my projects list). But I don't find any way to "move" edits to other projects (folders).
On other ocassions maybe I find that different residual edits spread among different projects could go to a new projecte (folder) to merge those ideas as themes onto a new "album" (let me say "album" to not repeat "project" with a different meaning).
I find the folders structure very confusing, since the are not related with real directories on my hard drive... or maybe I don't know how to use it. It looks as folders are very flexible and can be moved and reorganized on a hierarchy the way we want. But "edits" are forced to remain inside the project they were created forever. Is it that way ??
So, any idea about how to move an Edit to a different Project ??
Sorry for the long post, but I didn't know how to explain all this on a shorter way. Thanks !!
Sometimes I got an Edit which I would like to split on a new musical idea that I want to be related on a different project (on my projects list). But I don't find any way to "move" edits to other projects (folders).
On other ocassions maybe I find that different residual edits spread among different projects could go to a new projecte (folder) to merge those ideas as themes onto a new "album" (let me say "album" to not repeat "project" with a different meaning).
I find the folders structure very confusing, since the are not related with real directories on my hard drive... or maybe I don't know how to use it. It looks as folders are very flexible and can be moved and reorganized on a hierarchy the way we want. But "edits" are forced to remain inside the project they were created forever. Is it that way ??
So, any idea about how to move an Edit to a different Project ??
Sorry for the long post, but I didn't know how to explain all this on a shorter way. Thanks !!
- KVRian
- 544 posts since 24 Jan, 2004 from Sweden
You can archive the edit and import the archive in another project.
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- KVRAF
- 1599 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
I think there might be a much easier way.
Let's assume you have a project going called "IDEA1." As it often happens, you suddenly realize there's something in that project that would be better off as its own project. Call that one "IDEA2."
1. In IDEA1, create a new edit
1a. Go to the Projects tab
1b. Find the "IDEA1 edit 1" just left of center and click on it
1c. Down in the lower right corner, look for the "create new edit" button
2. Open this "IDEA edit 2" edit...both IDEA1 Edit 1 and IDEA Edit 2 will be open as tabs on your display
3. In Edit 1, delete everything you want in your new project (basically, get rid of your new idea from the old project)
4. In Edit 2, delete everything you want from your old project (you're isolating the stuff for your new one)
5. Create a new Project ("IDEA2")
6. In IDEA2, drag the IDEA 1 Edit 2 tab down into IDEA2. It will seem like you're dragging the entire window down into it, but don't be fooled. Drag it into the IDEA2 and release--Waveform will ask if you want to move that material down into IDEA2.
That might be all you want to do.
Let's assume you have a project going called "IDEA1." As it often happens, you suddenly realize there's something in that project that would be better off as its own project. Call that one "IDEA2."
1. In IDEA1, create a new edit
1a. Go to the Projects tab
1b. Find the "IDEA1 edit 1" just left of center and click on it
1c. Down in the lower right corner, look for the "create new edit" button
2. Open this "IDEA edit 2" edit...both IDEA1 Edit 1 and IDEA Edit 2 will be open as tabs on your display
3. In Edit 1, delete everything you want in your new project (basically, get rid of your new idea from the old project)
4. In Edit 2, delete everything you want from your old project (you're isolating the stuff for your new one)
5. Create a new Project ("IDEA2")
6. In IDEA2, drag the IDEA 1 Edit 2 tab down into IDEA2. It will seem like you're dragging the entire window down into it, but don't be fooled. Drag it into the IDEA2 and release--Waveform will ask if you want to move that material down into IDEA2.
That might be all you want to do.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 64 posts since 14 Oct, 2021
Hi "Stuttaton" and "Watchful" and thanks a lot for your proposals.
"Stuttaton", your tip is very useful, and looks very Waveform-way. Not the most intuitive way in the world to operate (IMHO) but it works. I've been already able to reorganized my projects using this approach. Great !!
"Watchful", your explanation is very complete, thanks for taking all the time required to write it. Unfortunatelly step 6 has not worked for me. I'm not completelly sure if I'm interpreting correctly the whole process. To sum it up, I think that you are telling to simply drag the top tab with the name of the working-edit-window to the project-list (which appears below it). I've been able to drag the tab over the list of the projectes, but once over it any project showed any "responsiveness" to be "highlighted" in sign that I could drop the project inside it. I've tried many times with no success. Does it require to activate any parameter on the setting "Settings" tab ?? That's the only thing that I'm afraid that I don't have, maybe some parameter should be active and I'm not aware of it.
In any case, thanks a lot to both of you !! Maybe that's on the manual but I've not been able to find it, and I was very worried about this workflow.
"Stuttaton", your tip is very useful, and looks very Waveform-way. Not the most intuitive way in the world to operate (IMHO) but it works. I've been already able to reorganized my projects using this approach. Great !!
"Watchful", your explanation is very complete, thanks for taking all the time required to write it. Unfortunatelly step 6 has not worked for me. I'm not completelly sure if I'm interpreting correctly the whole process. To sum it up, I think that you are telling to simply drag the top tab with the name of the working-edit-window to the project-list (which appears below it). I've been able to drag the tab over the list of the projectes, but once over it any project showed any "responsiveness" to be "highlighted" in sign that I could drop the project inside it. I've tried many times with no success. Does it require to activate any parameter on the setting "Settings" tab ?? That's the only thing that I'm afraid that I don't have, maybe some parameter should be active and I'm not aware of it.
In any case, thanks a lot to both of you !! Maybe that's on the manual but I've not been able to find it, and I was very worried about this workflow.
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- KVRAF
- 1599 posts since 9 Jan, 2018
Alas, the manual is worthless when it comes to Edits. They're never mentioned. This was a feature that was introduced prior to the Arranger track that goes across the top of the screen--and it was never documented. People found all sorts of weird things to do with it. It seems its original purpose was to break up your project into different parts--intro, verse, chorus, middle, etc.--and then you would drag those edits into a master project to experiment with different arrangements. Although this has been totally replaced by the Arranger--which is a ton easier to use--you can still do this with the Edit. Making a change in an edit results in an instantaneous change in the master edit. If you're familiar with Microsoft Word and its "master document" and "sub-documents," it's basically the same thing.
However, like I said, everybody used it differently. I've only used it to create very different approaches--do I want this song in 3/4 time or 4/4?--and could listen to the differences quickly before deciding one over the other.
If it were me--and I had an idea inside a project that I wanted to spin off into a different project--I would likely go the long way around. I would create the new project, and then cut and paste the clips from the old project into the new. This removes the idea from the old project, freeing that up, and then dumps all the new ideas into the new project.
I get what you're asking--shouldn't it be easy enough to drag an edit from Project A into Project B? I think it should be, but there's no single move I'm aware of. But I'm glad Stuttaton's method works for you! Look forward to seeing you around here.
However, like I said, everybody used it differently. I've only used it to create very different approaches--do I want this song in 3/4 time or 4/4?--and could listen to the differences quickly before deciding one over the other.
If it were me--and I had an idea inside a project that I wanted to spin off into a different project--I would likely go the long way around. I would create the new project, and then cut and paste the clips from the old project into the new. This removes the idea from the old project, freeing that up, and then dumps all the new ideas into the new project.
I get what you're asking--shouldn't it be easy enough to drag an edit from Project A into Project B? I think it should be, but there's no single move I'm aware of. But I'm glad Stuttaton's method works for you! Look forward to seeing you around here.
Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, and even Deezer, whatever the hell Deezer is.
More fun at Twitter @watchfulactual
More fun at Twitter @watchfulactual
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 64 posts since 14 Oct, 2021
Hi "Watchful", and thanks for this extra information.
>> shouldn't it be easy enough to drag an edit from Project A into Project B ?
>> I think it should be, but there's no single move I'm aware of.
No doubt about it, not doing it that way is to have and "old workflow". There are many things on Waveform that look "old", or at least similar to "old propietary systems". But the whole concept of "project" in Waveform has also some advantages. Luckily each new version looks more "modern". I'm eager to go to version 13 !!
>> But I'm glad Stuttaton's method works for you!
Well, looking to me quite and "old" method of doing things on modern pro-level software, but it works, and has allowed me to reorganize many projects that were dispersed by my lack of practice with Waveform since I started with it. Probably that's something I'll have to do from time to time, and not having an uber-optimized method for it it's not a problem. At least there's a way to do it, something I wasn't sure at all a couple of days ago
Thanks again to both.
>> shouldn't it be easy enough to drag an edit from Project A into Project B ?
>> I think it should be, but there's no single move I'm aware of.
No doubt about it, not doing it that way is to have and "old workflow". There are many things on Waveform that look "old", or at least similar to "old propietary systems". But the whole concept of "project" in Waveform has also some advantages. Luckily each new version looks more "modern". I'm eager to go to version 13 !!
>> But I'm glad Stuttaton's method works for you!
Well, looking to me quite and "old" method of doing things on modern pro-level software, but it works, and has allowed me to reorganize many projects that were dispersed by my lack of practice with Waveform since I started with it. Probably that's something I'll have to do from time to time, and not having an uber-optimized method for it it's not a problem. At least there's a way to do it, something I wasn't sure at all a couple of days ago
Thanks again to both.
Last edited by JordiTR on Mon Feb 26, 2024 9:01 am, edited 2 times in total.
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- KVRAF
- 2202 posts since 16 Apr, 2004 from between my ears
i, too, wondered about this. thanks for the tips, all.
