v13.0.40 Beta Available -- This one's going to blow your minds!

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How is possible to download that version ?? I'm on 13.0.33 and not seeing any available update.

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JordiTR wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:59 pm How is possible to download that version ?? I'm on 13.0.33 and not seeing any available update.
It's in the beta section of the individual installers page on the Tracktion website

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Found it !! Thanks dysjoint !!

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Is this forum the only place to find out about the new beta versions ??

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Anyone else experiencing instability since installing this beta?

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dellboy wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:46 pm Anyone else experiencing instability since installing this beta?
Its a beta boys.....better wear the boots.
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dellboy wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:46 pm Anyone else experiencing instability since installing this beta?
Do you have crash logs turned on? I see 3 different crashes reported in .40, none are unique to this version.

1 - click + drag sysex, will be fixed in next version

2 - scanning presets, can't reproduce this one yet, let me know if you've seen it

3 - somewhere in the audio mixer, can't reproduce yet

If you have an edit that repeatedly crash .40, please let me know.

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FigBug wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:19 pm If anybody has an edit with as yuge amount of automation, could they go to settings > advanced > hi res automation and turn it on. Do you notice a difference in CPU usage between having this setting on or off?
I think I can see that(at least o Linux). Create a project from EDM template on Linux, start play.
With HiRes automation turned off you'll see the "old" behavior - GUI becomes unresponsive, it might go un-freeze after a while, but sometimes you just have to kill the process.
Wit HiRes automation on it seems almost smooth, GUI is responsive with occasional small hick-ups.

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FigBug wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 12:57 am
dellboy wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:46 pm Anyone else experiencing instability since installing this beta?
Do you have crash logs turned on? I see 3 different crashes reported in .40, none are unique to this version.

1 - click + drag sysex, will be fixed in next version

2 - scanning presets, can't reproduce this one yet, let me know if you've seen it

3 - somewhere in the audio mixer, can't reproduce yet

If you have an edit that repeatedly crash .40, please let me know.
Yes,crash logs turned on. I have had a number of crashes,and I think most of them were related to the audio engine quitting. It seems to be related to lowering the latency. In my experience most audio engines crackle when the latency is lowered,but Waveforms engine just seems to quit and attempt a restart. I will put the latency up higher to 256 samples and see if it corrects the problem.

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dellboy wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:01 am Yes,crash logs turned on. I have had a number of crashes,and I think most of them were related to the audio engine quitting. It seems to be related to lowering the latency. In my experience most audio engines crackle when the latency is lowered,but Waveforms engine just seems to quit and attempt a restart. I will put the latency up higher to 256 samples and see if it corrects the problem.
Can you look in the log file and tell me the names of crash logs uploaded?

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Can you look in the log file and tell me the names of crash logs uploaded?
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20 Apr 2024 18:48:10 Crash report uploaded: Waveform 13.0.40 Crash Log 2024-04-20.dmp as 121000000012f4718efc318574_PresetLibrary.cppPresetLibraryLoadTaskrunJob293.dmp
20 Apr 2024 20:34:44 Finished shutdown
20 Apr 2024 20:34:44 *** ERROR: Plugin sandbox crashed:
Crashed
20 Apr 2024 20:34:48 Crash Location: PresetLibrary.cpp:PresetLibrary::LoadTask::runJob:293
20 Apr 2024 20:34:56 Crash report uploaded: Waveform 13.0.40 Crash Log 2024-04-20(2).dmp as 121000000012f4718efc9341f4_UnknownLocation.dmp
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Just downloaded the beta and it fixed the crash I was experiencing when I double clicked on MIDI clips! I'm over the moon!
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Hi - I'm getting regular freezes (i.e. every 5-10 minutes) in WF 13.0.40. No obvious trigger - has happened even when I was away from the computer. I'm running on Ubuntu 24.04, Pipewire, Wayland. I've switched sandboxing on and off, and switched from OpenGL and software rendering, but the problem persists. I end up killing Waveform from the Task Manager so I'm not sure it is generating a crash log. Happy to try to diagnose this but not sure what the next steps are to do so.
Ryzen 5 8600G, 32GB DDR5, Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, Waveform Pro 13, Mixbus Pro 10, Reaper 7, Bitwig 5.1.

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unholyeyebrows wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:21 am Hi - I'm getting regular freezes (i.e. every 5-10 minutes) in WF 13.0.40. No obvious trigger - has happened even when I was away from the computer. I'm running on Ubuntu 24.04, Pipewire, Wayland. I've switched sandboxing on and off, and switched from OpenGL and software rendering, but the problem persists. I end up killing Waveform from the Task Manager so I'm not sure it is generating a crash log. Happy to try to diagnose this but not sure what the next steps are to do so.
I have run Waveform from the terminal and captured some of the output there plus associated logs below in case this is useful.

An exit message of "double free or corruption (out)" is quite common.

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Lock-up:
malloc(): unsorted double linked list corrupted

Crash:
23 Apr 2024 9:25:07  Crash Location: UnknownLocation
23 Apr 2024 9:25:07  Maintenance took: 3 ms
23 Apr 2024 9:25:07  Crashed

Crash:
23 Apr 2024 9:27:48  Crash Location: UnknownLocation
23 Apr 2024 9:27:48  Crash Location: UnknownLocation
23 Apr 2024 9:27:48  Maintenance took: 4 ms
23 Apr 2024 9:27:48  Crashed
23 Apr 2024 9:27:48  Crashed

double free or corruption (out)

Crash:
23 Apr 2024 11:30:51  Crash Location: UnknownLocation
23 Apr 2024 11:30:51  Maintenance took: 2 ms
23 Apr 2024 11:30:51  Crashed
23 Apr 2024 11:30:51  

double free or corruption (out)
Ryzen 5 8600G, 32GB DDR5, Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, Waveform Pro 13, Mixbus Pro 10, Reaper 7, Bitwig 5.1.

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unholyeyebrows wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:48 am
unholyeyebrows wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:21 am Hi - I'm getting regular freezes (i.e. every 5-10 minutes) in WF 13.0.40. No obvious trigger - has happened even when I was away from the computer. I'm running on Ubuntu 24.04, Pipewire, Wayland. I've switched sandboxing on and off, and switched from OpenGL and software rendering, but the problem persists. I end up killing Waveform from the Task Manager so I'm not sure it is generating a crash log. Happy to try to diagnose this but not sure what the next steps are to do so.
I have run Waveform from the terminal and captured some of the output there plus associated logs below in case this is useful.

An exit message of "double free or corruption (out)" is quite common.

Code: Select all

Lock-up:
malloc(): unsorted double linked list corrupted

Crash:
23 Apr 2024 9:25:07  Crash Location: UnknownLocation
23 Apr 2024 9:25:07  Maintenance took: 3 ms
23 Apr 2024 9:25:07  Crashed

Crash:
23 Apr 2024 9:27:48  Crash Location: UnknownLocation
23 Apr 2024 9:27:48  Crash Location: UnknownLocation
23 Apr 2024 9:27:48  Maintenance took: 4 ms
23 Apr 2024 9:27:48  Crashed
23 Apr 2024 9:27:48  Crashed

double free or corruption (out)

Crash:
23 Apr 2024 11:30:51  Crash Location: UnknownLocation
23 Apr 2024 11:30:51  Maintenance took: 2 ms
23 Apr 2024 11:30:51  Crashed
23 Apr 2024 11:30:51  

double free or corruption (out)
I'm suspecting this is due to a corrupt project. I have created a brand new project and edit from scratch and copied the tracks from the faulty project into it. So far it seems stable. Could just be down to this project being based on an old template which has been moved between a few installations of Waveform (and between Windows and Ubuntu). If the problem returns I'll post back. Meanwhile I'll re-build the template in the same way.
Ryzen 5 8600G, 32GB DDR5, Ubuntu 24.04 LTS, Waveform Pro 13, Mixbus Pro 10, Reaper 7, Bitwig 5.1.

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