PS to have a nice smooth gate, the only option would be to set the ratio (SIZE) lower. BUT! It would be mostly an expander, not a gate. A true gate should be infinity ratio and we can't have this lest we get a nasty distorted release!
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- KVRist
- 55 posts since 21 Dec, 2024
If I say use MDynamics to make a gate and set ratio (SIZE) to infinity, no matter what my release is, it's going to be 0ms and sound very chunky. That said, ratio affects release, but this shouldn't be the case. If I use compressor it's okay, I may set the ratio to infinity and still have nice and smooth release, but not so in the case of gate. Please fix this! 
PS to have a nice smooth gate, the only option would be to set the ratio (SIZE) lower. BUT! It would be mostly an expander, not a gate. A true gate should be infinity ratio and we can't have this lest we get a nasty distorted release!
PS to have a nice smooth gate, the only option would be to set the ratio (SIZE) lower. BUT! It would be mostly an expander, not a gate. A true gate should be infinity ratio and we can't have this lest we get a nasty distorted release!
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- KVRian
- 1061 posts since 3 Oct, 2011
I thought "size" was equvivalent to what other calls "hysteresis", a different treshold for the release once the gate is opened.
I think of it as set "Bottom" to silence for a proper gate, with size to zero to begin with. Increase size for the gate to seem more stable (less "stuttering") in certain conditions. Have I been doing it wrong?
I think of it as set "Bottom" to silence for a proper gate, with size to zero to begin with. Increase size for the gate to seem more stable (less "stuttering") in certain conditions. Have I been doing it wrong?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 55 posts since 21 Dec, 2024
Yes, you have. By the way, there is no hysteresis in melda dynamics, which is also a nice option to discuss! Cause hysteresis is actually a very effective and required feature for a gate.Gone soft wrote: Sat Nov 29, 2025 10:27 pm I thought "size" was equvivalent to what other calls "hysteresis", a different treshold for the release once the gate is opened.
I think of it as set "Bottom" to silence for a proper gate, with size to zero to begin with. Increase size for the gate to seem more stable (less "stuttering") in certain conditions. Have I been doing it wrong?
But yes, you have been doing it wrong. SIZE is actually RATIO. Bottom is a very weird feature, it would be much better if it provided more room, that way it could act as RANGE, but it does not.
So far, what do we have? We have a gate, which doesn't have RANGE nor HYSTERESIS nor PROPER RATIO (which should act independently of release and attack)
PS I should add, that RANGE can be solved with custom mode, yes. But not HYSTERESIS, hysteresis is a second threshold for release. It's like we use one threshold for attack and one for release.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Actually many gates don't do hysteresis anymore - it was there long time ago for sake of analog stuff, where it was easier to implement. MDynamic's gate is kinda different, very specific, but if the parameter set doesn't suit you, just use one of the processors instead and click the "arrow down" button, which turns it into downwards expander, which is basically a gate. It still doesn't have hysteresis, but again it doesn't seem to be useful - I did quite some experiments with it and didn't find it helpful really.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 55 posts since 21 Dec, 2024
Thanks for the answer, Vojtech. Really. I didn't think about that =/ The "expander" option fully does what I want, woe is meMeldaProduction wrote: Mon Mar 02, 2026 1:21 pm Actually many gates don't do hysteresis anymore - it was there long time ago for sake of analog stuff, where it was easier to implement. MDynamic's gate is kinda different, very specific, but if the parameter set doesn't suit you, just use one of the processors instead and click the "arrow down" button, which turns it into downwards expander, which is basically a gate. It still doesn't have hysteresis, but again it doesn't seem to be useful - I did quite some experiments with it and didn't find it helpful really.
And yes, MDynamic's gate is acting differently... hmmm
