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No VST support yet...
A new FREE DAW
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
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- KVRAF
- 7030 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Pfffft.... No Linux support?! They support every thing else, even ANDROID. How could they support Android and not support Linux? That's just silly.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- 25013 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
An no audio tracks either. But if you want to make Gameboy- or NES-style tracks, this one might be right up your alley...
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- KVRAF
- 7030 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
jens wrote: Wed Feb 11, 2026 9:34 pmAn no audio tracks either. But if you want to make Gameboy- or NES-style tracks, this one might be right up your alley...
It's true!!Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Perhaps it will evolve in the right direction.
Free is always good for someone out there.
Linux?
Free is always good for someone out there.
Linux?
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- KVRAF
- 3768 posts since 5 Mar, 2004 from Gold Coast Australia
I'll try it. But I must say I get a shiver every time a new DAW claims it has made DAWs simpler to use whilst implementing some wacky, messy, non-standard squigglebok of a kspinkyblump that is nothing like what real music happens within.
We shall see tho as I am trying it today...
We shall see tho as I am trying it today...
Benedict Roff-Marsh
http://www.benedictroffmarsh.com
http://www.benedictroffmarsh.com
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
This weekend I’m giving it a spin unless you coming back with some horror story
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- KVRAF
- 3768 posts since 5 Mar, 2004 from Gold Coast Australia
Horror Story would be a bit rough. It ran, and for the bit I ran it, no crashes etc. Which is relatively easy with no VST.
The problems are that while there is a bit of a charm, it is not ready for any kind of serious work. Here's how I felt after a few minutes:
So much of the screen is wasted by 'locked-in' panes for editing stuff, Can't close or drag off to other monitors (I have three I use for Reason). I hate this assumption that ppl only use one 13" because all ppl are like the Dev. The whole idea of a visual environment is that one should not need extra panes in which one needs to do things that the main view is there for. Sadly, common in DAWs as while people claim to be 'musicians', there is a difference between a coder who likes to do a bit of Tracking and say David Gilmour
Some basics like Loop in the Transport are missing. Why?? Normally, such people are obsessed with looping things, so being missing is odd and a total PITA for composing when you want to hear your parts over again as you make them with the mouse.
The Clips in the Arrange view made almost no sense. I can accept having no actual control over clips as was common in the early days like Opcode Vision but not being able to understand them quickly is a PITA as is having them delete via double click when double click is caveman for open this thing #$@&@^@^# As I noted earlier, why reinvent the wheel to break conventions???
No VST is easy for the DEV but killer for the market. Not everyone wants to use 4 OP FM synths that again oddly operate backwards. I couldn't give a flying bananpeel for how accurate that may be for a SNES Rev 56 running on a ZX Spectrum in 1982. If that sort of retrograde hysteria is really important, make a setting to make all the controls operate backwards. Otherwise, up should be up.
The FM synth I tried also sounded low-bitrate. Again, fine for the historically hysteriesisised harrys. For everyone else, make it an option as I want my synths to sound nice by default. Esp seeing they are the ONLY real option for making sounds here. Random waveforms or samples may work in a Tracker but this was pitched as a DAW. Admittedly, with a SID that fell down a Minecraft proviso.
Soooo, my 2-cents is that full kudos on making it. It seems to work. It is also suitably self-referential for those who only want to make Dungeon Synth nastiness (backwards of course). It is far from ready to be called a DAW in the sense of a real one.
Ok, so I expect too much.
The problems are that while there is a bit of a charm, it is not ready for any kind of serious work. Here's how I felt after a few minutes:
So much of the screen is wasted by 'locked-in' panes for editing stuff, Can't close or drag off to other monitors (I have three I use for Reason). I hate this assumption that ppl only use one 13" because all ppl are like the Dev. The whole idea of a visual environment is that one should not need extra panes in which one needs to do things that the main view is there for. Sadly, common in DAWs as while people claim to be 'musicians', there is a difference between a coder who likes to do a bit of Tracking and say David Gilmour
Some basics like Loop in the Transport are missing. Why?? Normally, such people are obsessed with looping things, so being missing is odd and a total PITA for composing when you want to hear your parts over again as you make them with the mouse.
The Clips in the Arrange view made almost no sense. I can accept having no actual control over clips as was common in the early days like Opcode Vision but not being able to understand them quickly is a PITA as is having them delete via double click when double click is caveman for open this thing #$@&@^@^# As I noted earlier, why reinvent the wheel to break conventions???
No VST is easy for the DEV but killer for the market. Not everyone wants to use 4 OP FM synths that again oddly operate backwards. I couldn't give a flying bananpeel for how accurate that may be for a SNES Rev 56 running on a ZX Spectrum in 1982. If that sort of retrograde hysteria is really important, make a setting to make all the controls operate backwards. Otherwise, up should be up.
The FM synth I tried also sounded low-bitrate. Again, fine for the historically hysteriesisised harrys. For everyone else, make it an option as I want my synths to sound nice by default. Esp seeing they are the ONLY real option for making sounds here. Random waveforms or samples may work in a Tracker but this was pitched as a DAW. Admittedly, with a SID that fell down a Minecraft proviso.
Soooo, my 2-cents is that full kudos on making it. It seems to work. It is also suitably self-referential for those who only want to make Dungeon Synth nastiness (backwards of course). It is far from ready to be called a DAW in the sense of a real one.
Ok, so I expect too much.
Benedict Roff-Marsh
http://www.benedictroffmarsh.com
http://www.benedictroffmarsh.com
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
developer said it runs "flawlessly" on wine...interim workaround?audiojunkie wrote: Wed Feb 11, 2026 7:55 pmPfffft.... No Linux support?! They support every thing else, even ANDROID. How could they support Android and not support Linux? That's just silly.
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
dev said he doesn't want vst to remain self contained like sunvox FWIW...but they did add audio in according to users on their discord...and midi in is on the roadmap
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
You just saved my weekendBenedict wrote: Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:47 am So much of the screen is wasted by 'locked-in' panes for editing stuff, Can't close or drag off to other monitors (I have three I use for Reason).
(just that comment on the fixed panels did it!).Btw: I always enjoy you Reason videos!
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- KVRAF
- 3768 posts since 5 Mar, 2004 from Gold Coast Australia
Thanks Mr Sound.liquidsound wrote: Thu Feb 12, 2026 2:18 amYou just saved my weekendBenedict wrote: Thu Feb 12, 2026 12:47 am So much of the screen is wasted by 'locked-in' panes for editing stuff, Can't close or drag off to other monitors (I have three I use for Reason).
Btw: I always enjoy you Reason videos!
I do very little in the way of vids thesedays because there is no interaction, so I assume I am wasting time doing them.
Benedict Roff-Marsh
http://www.benedictroffmarsh.com
http://www.benedictroffmarsh.com
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- KVRAF
- 7095 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
I admire those even starting to make a daw from scratch and wonder if they realize what it takes in features to be remotely usable.
- wishlist from users probably 100 times longer than feature list
- does anybody long for yet another immature daw with the bugs that come with it, waiting for that to be fixed
- it takes guts, and that I like...future belong to such people
After 20+ years of development Reaper is pretty good in features, but I looked at it 20 years ago and I chose Sonar.
- and still today use Sonar last updated feb 2016, exactly 10 years ago
- wishlist from users probably 100 times longer than feature list
- does anybody long for yet another immature daw with the bugs that come with it, waiting for that to be fixed
- it takes guts, and that I like...future belong to such people
After 20+ years of development Reaper is pretty good in features, but I looked at it 20 years ago and I chose Sonar.
- and still today use Sonar last updated feb 2016, exactly 10 years ago
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- KVRian
- 1196 posts since 30 Apr, 2018
I read the title and thought "how is this thing going to disappoint me"? lol
a DAW with no VST support is not a DAW. There's gotta be some kind of universal law that says that every DAW created after 2012 or so HAS to be a crippled in some fundamental ways.
a DAW with no VST support is not a DAW. There's gotta be some kind of universal law that says that every DAW created after 2012 or so HAS to be a crippled in some fundamental ways.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
You mean as in DigitalAudioWastestation?
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