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kodama · Post by **kodama** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 5:27 pm

Will Filterscape Be Part Of Zebra 2???

Urs, I also noticed you finally put some FM in!

Also, how long til the PC Filterscape?

Thanks!

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:28 pm

kodama wrote:Will Filterscape Be Part Of Zebra 2???

Urs, I also noticed you finally put some FM in!

Also, how long til the PC Filterscape?

Thanks!

Well, I'll obviously spend Zebra 2 an EQ.

The FM thing was possible because FilterscapeVA isn't modular, at least the whole synthesis (Oscillators, Noise, SubOsc, Ringmod) is one single module - this way I could make a hard wire. But that isn't possible in Zebra the same way, if I want to keep the performance as good as it is. Well, as things are relative, I have something is the works.

For schedule of pc versions visit the Zebra PC Blog. I've ordered a pc and the required development tools online, but they havn't arrived, yet. I'll keep you up to date, unless XP Media Center Stuff has too many distractions to offer...

My schedule got a bit corrupted due to the high amount of emails recently, and because my ambitions for programming a top modern arpeggiator for Filterscape and Zebra kept rising (which is good, I promise)

Nevertheless, I got some crossplatform work going. Not yet fully implemented, but still, it's a good sign.

Cheers,

Urs

kodama · Post by **kodama** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:02 pm

Thanks for the replies!

Urs wrote:
Well, I'll obviously spend Zebra 2 an EQ.

?

I was kind of asking if it's worth it to buy them both, or if Zebra 2 will have the same functionality & so buying them both would be redundant.

Urs wrote: I have something is the works.

Sweet!

Urs wrote: programming a top modern arpeggiator for Filterscape and Zebra kept rising (which is good, I promise)

Super Sweet!

Sargon · Post by **Sargon** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:17 pm

Today I finally got my new iMac after waiting for seven weeks (couldn't imagine that I still get my hands on it this year) with a reasonable discount for paying cash (was a big surprise), and now this:

Urs wrote: Well, I'll obviously spend Zebra 2 an EQ.
[...]
My schedule got a bit corrupted due to the high amount of emails recently, and because my ambitions for programming a top modern arpeggiator for Filterscape and Zebra kept rising (which is good, I promise)

Kind of a neverending christmas this year ...

kodama · Post by **kodama** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:56 pm

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:35 pm

kodama wrote:I was kind of asking if it's worth it to buy them both, or if Zebra 2 will have the same functionality & so buying them both would be redundant.

Well, I use to say, Zebra plays in a different league than FilterscapeVA

While FilterscapeVA is certainly a good sounding virtual analog synth, you can't compare it to Zebra in terms of flexibility. Zebra can do true stereo sounds, like panning 4 oscillators go through 4 filters independently and lots of other tricks that VA can't. Filterscape has a single lowpass filter with 12/24/36 dB, while Zebra 1.5 already serves 18 different sounding filters. Zebra 2 will probably leave an even larger gap, but it won't *include* FilterscapeVA.

FilterscapeVA is mostly an add-on to Filterscape (who would've guessed?

). Of course, from some point of view, VA is gonna a bit more modern than Zebra 1.5, but these features are due to the new engine which will also drive Z2. Nevertheless, VA's super comfortable gui and its unique features (an eq for each voice...) have a lot to offer.

So, it certainly depends on what you want and what you need. Having Zebra around is a great choice for a synth, while the different variations of filters/eqs in Filterscape are a good choice in another respect.

Honestly, if you need an easy-2-use virtual analog synth for just a bit more than bread'n'butter, Filterscape is way to go, as you get at least 2 more plugins extra. Well, but if you need more in terms of character, control and squishiness... that's clearly the Z-domain

Cheers,

Urs

pough · Post by **pough** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:37 pm

Can you make the same bizarre barking sound using Zebra that an actual Zebra makes? Or would that be better handled by FilterscapeVA?

Joxer the Mighty · Post by **Joxer the Mighty** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:44 pm

Is there an estimated release date for Zebra 2?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:47 pm

pough wrote:Can you make the same bizarre barking sound using Zebra that an actual Zebra makes? Or would that be better handled by FilterscapeVA?

I think Art has made it with Zebra 1.0. But he never sent me the whole bitshift bank. That man is too busy...

I think I'll post some more demo tunes tomorrow... there are at least 3 or 4 waiting to be heard

But now... BEEEER! (Yes, my fav bar has open after 3 thirsty days)

Urs

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Dec 27, 2004 11:52 pm

Joxer the Mighty wrote:Is there an estimated release date for Zebra 2?

Ok, beer can wait a minute

Well, it mostly depends on how fast the ordered pc and software arrive. Then you'll probably see huge progress in the Zebra PC Blog.

When Filterscape final is out (maybe 2nd week of January or so), all 35 hours a day will be devoted to pc ports and Zebra 2. When Filterscape pc is out, you won't trust your eyes how fast Z2 will be done. Mostly, because I've already done the biggest part of the development work...

Cheers,

Urs

Joxer the Mighty · Post by **Joxer the Mighty** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:02 am

Agh! You're probably gone for your beer already! I neglected to mention I was inquiring about Zebra 2 for the Mac. I just moved over to Mac and am tempted by Zebra 1.5, but wonder if I should just wait for 2 to come out.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:57 am

Joxer the Mighty wrote:Agh! You're probably gone for your beer already! I neglected to mention I was inquiring about Zebra 2 for the Mac. I just moved over to Mac and am tempted by Zebra 1.5, but wonder if I should just wait for 2 to come out.

Ah... ok... I managed to get drunk quickly.

I don't know if Z2 will be a paid upgrade or not. If it will, it will be around 20 bucks (kinda database update fee), but nothing anyhow near 50. It's because there's gonna be a change to the registration scheme, that's why. New codes and stuff...

Technically, Z2 will certainly not just replace Z1. You will be able to use them both side by side if you like (otherwise old automation data in dumb - all - hosts will be corrupted)). But *sigh* I'm drunk to explain that. It is somehow related to the new engine. Well, I'm too drunk.

Shit. Must prepare for hang over... where's my Alka Seltzer?

Later,

Urs

Joxer the Mighty · Post by **Joxer the Mighty** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:58 am

Thank you for the information.

I hope your hangover is not too bad.

kodama · Post by **kodama** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:15 pm

Urs, you ok?

So it kinda sounds like Filterscape is the baby Zebra.

If that's so, can Z2 (or the FX version of Z2) have an envelope follower on the input?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:21 pm

kodama wrote:Urs, you ok?

So it kinda sounds like Filterscape is the baby Zebra.

I'm okay... hang over wasn't that bad...

Well... they are different. Zebra 2 will definately not have such an EQ per voice. It already has eq-type filters, but the full eq thing will remain a speciality of Filterscape.

kodama wrote:If that's so, can Z2 (or the FX version of Z2) have an envelope follower on the input?

That's a possibility.

Unlike FilterscapeVA, you can modulate the effects in Zebra. And if there's an EQ... you can also modulate that one.

Cheers,

Urs