Tracktion'ers please help! Quantize a mess???

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I've just downloaded the demo and trying to make transition from Logic to Traction please help!

I cant seem to get the quantizing smack on grid with the midi click.

I mean it does quantize I can hear the difference but it does not seem to get it on beat unless I go 1/1, 1/2.

My playing is not that bad, I never have any trouble with Logic @ 1/16th of a second on the grid.

I have also tried quantizing by selecting the notes in the matrix note grid screen so whats the problem?

Where am I going wrong??

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For you to quantize at 1/16th in tracktion, you're gonna need to use 1/4. Jules (the leader of the Tracktion cult) didnt use the same measurement as the other sequencers so its kinda confusing. He explained it once but I forgot the details. Anyways hope that helps. Be sure to visit the tracktion forum if you're still having problems.
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Doesn't 1/4 in Tracktion mean 1/4 of the bottom number in the time signature (so 1/16 = 1/4 * 1/4 for common time)? Whereas any other host takes 1/4 to mean a quarter note.

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Dont ask me I failed fractions in 2nd grade.
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Warmonger has it right.

The tracktion quantization is scaled against a beat instead of a 4/4 bar. so 1/4 is equal to a sixteenth note, and 1/2 is an eighth note. this makes 1/16 a 64th note.

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You mean I need to change the "Time Signiture" from 4/4 to 1/4?

I've tried that, if thats what you were refering to, and the bars have all gone out of whack., Confusing:help:

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Whats wrong with this guy :? is he tryin to rewrite history.? this is not right!, how could he fail here?

Is there anyway to fix this without changing tim sig? if not what time sig shall i set on? still baffled?
Last edited by Mr Sleep on Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:24 am, edited 1 time in total.

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You don't need to change the time signature to quantize. You just have to do a bit of mental math every time you want to quantize. :?

Or, just remember that 1/4 in Tracktion means 1/16, 1/2 means 1/8, and so on. Until you switch to a different time signature, of course. :o

Come to think of it, I'm hoping this is changed in T2 to the "standard" behavior. Tracktion does a lot of things differently, and that's what I like about it, but in this case, it's not (IMO) an improvement over other hosts.

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Warmonger beat me to it :D.

And as far as Jules trying to rewrite history. Yes, I think that was his whole goal. Thats why his sequencer is awsomely different.
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Mr Sleep wrote:Whats wrong with this guy :? is he tryin to rewrite history.? this is not right!, how could he fail here?
Jules made T work the way he wanted it to. You can't say it's a failure or an oversight. It was (probably) a conscious design decision that he made in development.

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ok, I can live with that. :)

is there any option to have a "large disk buffer"?

Other than tuning the latency, I was able to conjure up more tracks with Logic by ticking the large disk buffer option.

Any way to squeeze extra life with Tracktion?

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Settings > Miscellaneous > Cache Size

:D

Thanks for reminding me about that, actually. I hardly use audio tracks at all, and I've probably been wasting a bit of RAM by not changing it from the default.

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Just to reitterate;

1/4 is one quater of a beat.
In 4/4 time a beat is a quater note.
1/4 of a quater note is a 1/16 note.
So, 1/4 will quantize to sixteenth notes.

In 6/8 time a beat is an eigth note.
So you would use 1/2 to quantize to sixteenth notes.

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oh cheers thanks for the input guys you've been very helpfull. :D

just one more querie I have!

Im trying to automate, cutoff, res, attack, decay etc but its not updating the paramater names.., am I doing something wrong?

After expanding track I select the knob on the left then I go controllers but it gives me the same paramater naming for every synth??

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I had problems with this quantize method at first also. I just multiply the bottom number in the fraction by 4 and it seems to work (at least in 4/4 time). No need to memorize or do fractional math.

J

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