newbie question,
I am trying to change the speed and keep the same pitch on a drum loop. If i just change the speed phasing is not noticable. If i time stretch it gets very phasey on the cymbals and pitch shifting didn't work. I was changing the temp from 95 bpm to 87 bpm.
Is Tracktion the wrong thing to use for this? If so can someone please tell me how i can make this happen.
I don't know or use midi sequencers. I am using the Acid wav's of the Simon Phillips Loops from sessionloops.com.
bob
thanks
Drum Loop Phasing
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
if u have acid then the best way would be to resample the loop in acid to the wanted tempo then import to tracktion at the correct speed becouse the time streach is not so hot in it
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- KVRAF
- 1974 posts since 21 Jun, 2002 from Earth
Tracktions time stretching algo is what some might call "special" 
meaning... it doesn't come close to comparing to anything like Acid or Live. I think it's more useful as an effect, than a HiQ timestretch. Hopefully a good timestretch algo is in tracktion's future.
meaning... it doesn't come close to comparing to anything like Acid or Live. I think it's more useful as an effect, than a HiQ timestretch. Hopefully a good timestretch algo is in tracktion's future.
ModuLR / Radio
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
Still hasn't been shown in the T2 striptease. This is my #1 request for T2. I'm really, really really hoping for this. If it doesn't have it, I guess I have to keep stringing along my ACID 2.0 software on the machine.Hopefully a good timestretch algo is in tracktion's future.
Please Beno please show us improve time stretch.
-Scott
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- KVRAF
- 5782 posts since 10 Mar, 2003 from Music Shed #8
SECONDED!!!rockstar_not wrote:Still hasn't been shown in the T2 striptease. This is my #1 request for T2. I'm really, really really hoping for this. If it doesn't have it, I guess I have to keep stringing along my ACID 2.0 software on the machine.Hopefully a good timestretch algo is in tracktion's future.
Please Beno please show us improve time stretch.
-Scott
again
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 8 posts since 10 Nov, 2004
Hi!
Thanks for the suggestions. I am Mac based so Acid is out and i don't have Classic 9 running. I am not ready to spend the dollars on the high end software. I'm looking for a cheap way to do this.
bob
"I am trying to change the speed in Tracktion and keep the same pitch on a drum loop. If i just change the speed phasing is not noticable. If i time stretch it gets very phasey on the cymbals and pitch shifting didn't work. I was changing the temp from 95 bpm to 87 bpm. "
Thanks for the suggestions. I am Mac based so Acid is out and i don't have Classic 9 running. I am not ready to spend the dollars on the high end software. I'm looking for a cheap way to do this.
bob
"I am trying to change the speed in Tracktion and keep the same pitch on a drum loop. If i just change the speed phasing is not noticable. If i time stretch it gets very phasey on the cymbals and pitch shifting didn't work. I was changing the temp from 95 bpm to 87 bpm. "
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
for mac, I'd say try phatmatik
It doesn't do quite what you want but it gives the same results, and does a lot more as well.
It doesn't do quite what you want but it gives the same results, and does a lot more as well.
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRist
- 241 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Atlanta and Portland
you could always do it maually.bobstory wrote: I was changing the temp from 95 bpm to 87 bpm...
open it in a Traktion session at 95bpm
put a cut at every 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, whatever you want. if you do a lot of cuts (1/16's or 1/32's) and ignore the actually drums you should keep a lot of the feel. if you want it straight just cut on the drum hits.
change the tempo to 87, move all the pieces to the correct bar-beat.
slide all the beginnings of the edits back to cover the previous piece and crossfade. now render.
that's what Phatmatik and Recycle do, just quicker and easier. well that's part of what they do anyway.
Billy