The Consolation Project - The Ocean Is Deep (fixed vocals)
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- KVRist
- 110 posts since 17 May, 2004 from Palm Coast, FL
I liked it alot. I liked the slow tempo. Chillin out type music.
After the vocals faded at the end around 3:50 I think you should have continued the instrumental background for a while. I was riding that music and could have just ridden it further. I liked that piano and whatever that pad background sound was.
Bob
After the vocals faded at the end around 3:50 I think you should have continued the instrumental background for a while. I was riding that music and could have just ridden it further. I liked that piano and whatever that pad background sound was.
Bob
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Very nice work, Ron. Like I've told you before, parts of it remind me of the Rheostatics, which is meant as a compliment. I can see the Pink Floyd comparison, too, but I think this is a bit more 'accessible' than early Floyd.
Only a wee bit muddy in the frequency department. Certainly as good or better than I'd be capable of, but still not quite up to commercial standards in terms of letting the song 'breathe'.
Great work! Looking forward to more.
Greg
Only a wee bit muddy in the frequency department. Certainly as good or better than I'd be capable of, but still not quite up to commercial standards in terms of letting the song 'breathe'.
Great work! Looking forward to more.
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
- KVRAF
- 25032 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Holy shit - this is fantastic, Ron!!!
it sent a shiver down my spine...
I see the Pink Floyd reminiscence as well
The vocals are great, likewise the production and the arrangement!!! Definetely a keeper...
it sent a shiver down my spine...
I see the Pink Floyd reminiscence as well
The vocals are great, likewise the production and the arrangement!!! Definetely a keeper...
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
I've had my own digs at Ron from time to time, but I have to say that every Consolidation Project track I've heard has been ace. There was one that I liked even better than this one... hmm... what was the name again... crap, don't remember the name AND I can't find a link on your website, Ron.
Grr! Should've saved that one to a keeper folder....
Greg
Grr! Should've saved that one to a keeper folder....
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Nice work Ron.
I think your mix is pretty close though; the vocals and piano sound great, and I like the guitar when its exposed.
My advice would be to re-balance the drums by raising the snare a little and dropping the ride cymbal which leaps out a bit atm. Possibly the kick and snare could be a little brighter.. but the main thing I would work on is panning, especially of the guitar which I think could find a space over on the right somewhere, and maybe the piano could move more firmly to the left? This should clear some room for the centre, and help create a sense of space round each instrument..
Muddiness is a bit of a subjective term: I suspect the "muddiness" you like is down to the mix being quite warm (especially the snare), while Greg means muddiness in the sense that its not always easy to pick out all the elements of the backing (especially the guitar)rpc9943 wrote:screw commercial etc
I like the muddiness of it. Besides I have no idea how I would make it not muddy
RonC
I think your mix is pretty close though; the vocals and piano sound great, and I like the guitar when its exposed.
My advice would be to re-balance the drums by raising the snare a little and dropping the ride cymbal which leaps out a bit atm. Possibly the kick and snare could be a little brighter.. but the main thing I would work on is panning, especially of the guitar which I think could find a space over on the right somewhere, and maybe the piano could move more firmly to the left? This should clear some room for the centre, and help create a sense of space round each instrument..
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
that is by far the best critique ive ever heard. I mean compare it to say my bloody valentine, now THATS muddy.

So I don't know I might just say it's keeper, just because I can.
Coming soon - Faster download link!
RonC
So I don't know I might just say it's keeper, just because I can.
Coming soon - Faster download link!
RonC
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- KVRAF
- 7672 posts since 9 Nov, 2003 from Netherlands
Don't on this one; it suits the mood perfectly.rpc9943 wrote:screw commercial etc
I like the muddiness of it. Besides I have no idea how I would make it not muddy
RonC
Quite much enjoyed this one
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- KVRist
- 180 posts since 7 Oct, 2004 from NL
Sounds good to me, keepin it. 
Jaap
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- KVRAF
- 2083 posts since 8 Apr, 2004
I really like this track ...
There's a strange hoover dron noise in the middle, I think it's some kind of echo/ reverb.. but I'm not sure what it is?.. err what is it?... IMHO... I think I'd mix that noise a bit quiter... it works and adds atmosphere.. but it sometimes draws attention to itself to much, it is adding to the muddiness in the track (in both meanings of the word)...
But overall this is a great track.. top stuff..
Ben
There's a strange hoover dron noise in the middle, I think it's some kind of echo/ reverb.. but I'm not sure what it is?.. err what is it?... IMHO... I think I'd mix that noise a bit quiter... it works and adds atmosphere.. but it sometimes draws attention to itself to much, it is adding to the muddiness in the track (in both meanings of the word)...
But overall this is a great track.. top stuff..
Ben

